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TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

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Post by neonate »

_s4uu wrote: post #269
neonate wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You said "The level of infiltration of the 50 cent army on YouTube is absurd" and gave an example which you now say "is not an obvious example of 50 cent army". If the infiltration level is absurd, and you and your friend have been analyzing it for a long time, why not give a clear example in the first place?

Sorry you are right, I refer to the 50 cent army as Chinese nationalists in general. Given that there is no way to literally verify, to me it’s all the same. My definition would be closer to “those who go out of the way to champion the ccp party line.” For example, going on a multi paragraph rant about the glories of the chinese communist party, or complete non sequiters. So yes by absurd infiltration I’m talking abo…

But then why call it "infiltration"? Infiltration implies a plan and sinister intent.

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Post by subsaharancoder »

bransonf wrote: post #30

What amazes me is that Tik-Tok fills the void created when Twitter killed vine. Given the popularity of Vine, and the outrage when Twitter killed it, I have no idea why they thought it was a good move. I’m bullish on Tik-Tok because I think it’s the next logical evolution of social media (and totally captures the Vine fan base which was pretty big to begin with) First there was text, both Facebook and Twitter. Then i…

Now people want videos that they can consume in short bits of time en mass -> ergo SnapChat

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Post by y_tho »

m_ke wrote: post #305
stjohnswarts wrote: post #298

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What? My podcasts are all on subjects that I'm interested in and rarely (other than sponsored 1 or 2 minute ads that I can fast forward through) mention a product. What are you on about?

I mostly listened to tech podcasts like talking machines and econ/business stuff like freakonomics or village global. They all mostly follow an interview format where the guest is only there to promote something that they work on.

They are there because they have insight into a phenomenon they have studied and is being discussed, and they may have a book or something that further explains what they are talking about should the listener be interested. Should they not mention or promote their work?

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Post by yourbandsucks »

thanatropism wrote: post #204
yourbandsucks wrote: post #138

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It's been like a week since the last US-backed Latin American coup.

Yeah, but US-backed != US-hatched. The proximal cause is that Bolivia had fallen into a state of utter chaos (therefore a power vacuum); the proximal cause of that is that the president tried to pull off a Xi Jingping but this didn't play even with much of the population that initially backed him. It's the difference between setting a house on fire to acquire the land, and buying a land lot where a house used to be.

That's certainly the official US line on the matter.

How has the official US line held up, historically, when it comes to coups vs socialists in Latin America? Why should it be different this time?

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Post by skinnymuch »

y_tho wrote: post #313
m_ke wrote: post #305

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly listened to tech podcasts like talking machines and econ/business stuff like freakonomics or village global. They all mostly follow an interview format where the guest is only there to promote something that they work on.

They are there because they have insight into a phenomenon they have studied and is being discussed, and they may have a book or something that further explains what they are talking about should the listener be interested. Should they not mention or promote their work?

Almost always the main guest is there to primarily plug something. They almost are never there just to discuss some findings.

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Post by afiori »

wccrawford wrote: post #184
afiori wrote: post #21

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My impression is that it is a quick, simple, but extremely effective medium for artistic expression. In a sense it is very pure; it is not about anything specific and, more importantly, it is not about showing a fake, happy, successful version of yourself. While I am too old to participate in it, as a medium it looks more healthy in term of living with your online persona (compared to insta-models and travel vlogging…

I just took a trip through the "trending" page and all I saw were dog videos, people showing off how awesome, happy or cool they were, and a couple tutorials. None of that says "real" to me. It was all about showing how happy and successful they were.

In the videos I saw in general (again, not my thing, so a limited experience) there is a difference in production value.

On Instagram there is a tendency to push for that one perfect photo, on tiktok it looks like there is more a push for content. (obviously there is a continuity between them)

Especially with the "reply" functionality (I don't know how it is called, but you can reply to other users's video by making your own video that will appear the the side) the posts are often in the style of commentary.

In terms of online persona, on tiktok it is almost natural to post a video of your pimples/acne as funny video while on IG it would feel strongly out of place.

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Post by vagab0nd »

I'm not sure what to feel about this. The app seems worth than facebook to me. I've not used it myself, but from the limited information I gathered from friends, some of them would mindlessly watch it for hours and not be able to stop even if they wanted to. Some forced themselves to delete the app.

Genuine question to people who use the app: how does it add value? Or is it a even better attention grabber?

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Post by PikachuEXE »

We need another product that's not controlled by CCP though. Privacy & security should be the most important topics nowadays. We should all beware how big tech companies, especially those linked with CCP, would be using the data they collected. And take action (quit/avoid) when / before it hurts.

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Post by JohnJamesRambo »

Invictus0 wrote: post #295
authoritarian wrote: post #251

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You say that "a list of quotes from the past has no bearing on the present reality" and then go on to say that "people are really struggling to focus" which is essentially the same point, or at least closely related, that the quotes from the xkcd are making. Why are you acting like the quotes are unrelated when they support what you're saying?

I think you're misunderstanding why OP posted the quotes. The quotes are mocking people that say that technology is making it harder for people to focus, because a hundred years ago people said the same thing about books and the telegraph etc.

Maybe that’s when the slide started...

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Post by randompi »

asdff wrote: post #261
nbardy wrote: post #49

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At the same time we have the rise of long form podcasts. Producing quite the opposite effect.

Podcasts that many people have playing constantly. In the car or on the train. In the elevator. At work. In the bathroom. At the store. At home. For many people, it's mindless banter they put on in the background while doing other tasks. Youtube, but you can use your eyes. But when do you get a free thought that's entirely your own? Just a moment when someone or something isn't barking at you to listen to this or buy…

> But when do you get a free thought that's entirely your own?

You come on a discussion platform like Hackernews to voice your own thoughts and opinions?

So is a discussion platform better for the mind in that sense?

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