My hot take is that if the speed of light was 10 times faster I would like Stadia. 20ms of extra latency is unacceptable to me, but 2ms would be fine.
"Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"
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#502ok boomer
LOL At 32 I'm called a boomer because I said to hug a tree. Good job. You're right, let's start chopping down them trees because baby boomers like trees... you cunt.
Can please you calm down? You've been spamming this discussion while getting increasingly hostile. We get it, you don't think people should play as much videogames as they do. Good, we get it.
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Yeah this ^ I guess Google did an MVP and everybody is expecting it to be a fully-fledged offering already. That might have been due to Google promoting it as such of course (and asking the price for it). What I also see happening is that as soon as they have a free tier, people are gonna try to play a game for 5 minutes because they saw something on Youtube or somewhere else and then 1 in X will just buy the game on…
It’s not well known but AT&T and Nvidia partnered to use hardware encoding/decoding (Shield) and fiber internet with compute at the last mile and they still couldn’t make a product that wasn’t laggy and have distracting artifacts. I am sorry to say Google‘s demonstration was more of the same and customers will not overlook this. Imagine how bad VR titles would get you motion sick with all of that latency and compress…
I'm playing Stadia on my non-fiber cable internet, and there's no perceptible lag. I previously tried Geforce Now, under the same conditions, same pc - and it was unplayable.
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#504Stadia exists because Google is a perpetual spaghetti throwing machine. Mainframe-style gaming is possible and they have the resources to try it so... here we are. If it doesn't take off, Google will have no problem killing the program in 3 or 4 years. That said, I really don't see the problem with this strategy. It surely makes much more sense than having an ever growing stable of also-ran offerings. The upshot of c…
My main issue for Stadia has been that they are trying to rebadge existing games to work on Stadia instead of making a game that uses the cloud to provide a unique experience. It's one of the things that none of the other streaming companies I am aware of have tried to make an advantage of the proximity of the actual VMs/shared runtime to make it a Mainframe-style experience where you wouldn't have to compromise as h…
Give it time. They're clearly interested in exploring the possibilities there, as their GDC presentation suggested.
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"Same price" if you already have a solid computer with a multi-hundred-dollar GPU.
You don't need a "multi-hundred-dollar GPU" to play modern games. I built my first computer 15 years ago for $500 using a $120 GPU. 10 years ago I upgraded it with a $120 GPU. 4 years ago I upgraded that with a $120 GPU. It should support VR, but I imagine when that tech has matured I'll want to pick up another $120 GPU.
You're not "running modern games" at any kind of acceptable frame rate and quality on a 15 year old CPU. And you absolutely aren't running VR on a 15 year old CPU even if you have a 4 year old GPU that technically fits within the minimum requirements.
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#506"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…
I'm seeing this a lot and don't understand... where the hell are you people travelling where bringing a console/game system is a concern? I travel for work or for vacation. If for work, I'm there hitting "Spit money out for me" at an ATM. Not gaming. I'm not home so I can make much better money in a short timespan to enjoy home time more. End of days is visiting restaurants/bars and either socializing or schmoozing c…
> If none of that, I read a book ... or enjoy a movie.
How do you think playing video games is different from those activities?
Other than your ability to relate to them.
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I'm seeing this a lot and don't understand... where the hell are you people travelling where bringing a console/game system is a concern? I travel for work or for vacation. If for work, I'm there hitting "Spit money out for me" at an ATM. Not gaming. I'm not home so I can make much better money in a short timespan to enjoy home time more. End of days is visiting restaurants/bars and either socializing or schmoozing c…
> I get it, everyone vacations differently. But playing video games while out on vacation is like bringing a Subway sandwich to a 3-star steakhouse restaurant. You are there to not-home. You say you get it, but... I like home. When I'm on vacation, I mostly staycation, because that's the time I'm not out seeing people and doing activities to perform "happy" and "fun". > I'm not home so I can make much better money in…
I really have to explain why a staycation is different from a traditional vacation? Fine, a group of tech engineers needs it completely spelled out. Fine.
Yes, because a staycation means either you're at home or doing something nearby home to just no do what stresses you out. Most people do these, especially on the weekends. If that means veging out in front of a TV because it's not your dick head boss talking to you, awesome.
But why the fuck would you veg out in front of a TV 1,000 miles from home when you're "trying to get away". Why would you do something you can easily just stay at home and do? It makes zero sense. Then do a staycation if you're just going to play video games. You save money and can buy more games then. This was made fun of constantly in 90s movies of families going on vacation, then doing nothing but watch TV in the hotel. It's stupid for them beecause, "Oh, they're boomers, haha, they're so stupid... MY GAMES ARE IMPORTANT TO ME AND I IDENTIFY WITH THEM!"
Yea...
You need to renegotiate your salary and scope of duties. It's called assertiveness.
Anyways, I'm not against veging out. I'm fully for it. Everyone needs to do it from time to time and God knows I've done it with video games too. I've done many all weekend sessions before. It's this weird heroine like dependency people have to them that's showing up in these threads. Then they all wonder why they're so anxious and depressed when they have to interact in the real world. If I said I need to smoke a cigar whenever I travel on a plane, or I'm bored at a hotel, while eating, what would you say? But if I say I have to play video games on a plane, or bored at a hotel or while eating, that's okay? Yea, I ruin my physical health from smoking the occasional cigar, but I do it socially and guess what, I'm not anxious/scared talking to people like most people in HN claim themselves. Sure, I sacrifice some of my health, but sure as shit my mental health is better than the lot that vice on video games. Video gamers have both bad physical and mental health.
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#508"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…
What about paying full price to rent (and never own) old AAA games?
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I know people that bring cigarettes to every trip they've had in more than 10 years. Doesn't make it right either. Always having to rely on video games and the internet is a problem. You seriously can't mature through being alone in your own thoughts? People gladly, even smugly, say I'm a bad guy because on the weekends I treat myself to a cigar. Yea, I know it's bad and I don't push that habit off as some glorious t…
Why do you bring books and movies then? "You seriously can't mature through being alone in your own thoughts?"
Yea, but I'm not dependent on them. Everyone here is just, "I need my games wherever I am at all times!" Learn to diversify. Learn to not need technology. Hug a fucking tree.
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Games are not movies though many making this connection is probably why many games are awful nowadays as they try to be something they are not. It doesn't surprise me that executives who have no idea about gaming see flashy graphics and associate them with movies. Longevity is certainly not overrated, at least for me. Just yesterday i was playing Morrowind, a game released almost two decades ago and a few months befo…
What percentage of your games do you play more than a year after purchase? If you could have rented most of your games at a lower price, and then bought the ones you really liked on sale, would you have paid more money total?
> What percentage of your games do you play more than a year after purchase?
Admittedly a very low percentage.
I will say that I definitely spend more than 90% of my time playing games on games that I've bought more than 10 years ago.
To me, games are a way to experience a different life in a different universe that is full with other friends and acquaintances. They are fun worlds that I can visit whenever I want.
That's why stadia (and games that require online connections) are things I can never see myself accepting.