How to run your own mail server (2017)
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Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#142mailinabox ftw.
After the first couple of months I've had zero delivery problems.
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Curious why you're so attached to the qmail style subaddressing. Personal preference or is there a technical advantage?
Probably because s/he has those addresses out there in the wild starting from a time that it was still reasonable to run an email server, so like 10+ years and probably a bit more.
That's exactly the case for me, but I've been handing out these addresses for nearly 20 years. I also suffer from the problems with gmail that the GP referred to. I can't even forward all my email to myself without having it dumped into gmail's trashbin!
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I had DKIM, SPF, rDNS, etc. at first and went to Gmail spam. I registered on gmail postmaster tools and got some friends and family to add me to their contact lists and send me some outbound mail. Google now sends me more mail than I send them, and now I don't go to the spam list, even for gmail accounts I haven't contacted before. This was for personal email. If you are trying to send commercial email this strategy…
I don't have a high enough volume for my personal e-mail to even show up on the postmaster tools.
Mine doesn't show up either, but I figured the verification process might have affected the spam classification.
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#145I was looking for something like this
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed! I've been running my own mail server for 20+ years, and I would not recommend that anybody do this on a lark. Deliverability to GMail is a huge problem for me and has been for years. I even asked friends at Google to find out what the story was. All I got back is that the mail group was so careful/paranoid it wouldn't talk to them either. I would long ago have switched over to a vendor, but I use qmail-style…
+1 about the opaqueness of gmails spam filters. I once had an email from a google recruiter (@google address) go to spam in gmail so at least it's somewhat egalitarian (that was 5+ years ago).
That makes sense though. An aggressive recruiter overusing their work email to contact cold leads will get flagged a lot, even if the domain is clean I imagine they also train based off of individual addresses.
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Still running my mailcow. I don't care if people don't get my mail. I can show them that i handed the over to their server - everything else is their concern. At least legally. If you can't read my mail cause you misconfigured your spam filter I can't help.
> I don't care if people don't get my mail This is the type of nonsense I expect from HN. Well done.
When someone in a company agrees on a meeting in their office with someone from outside the company, and the visitor arrives at time well-dressed and is rejected by the companies security without any explanation, then who is at fault? It is not the visitor, it is the awful cooperation between the person in the company and their companies security.
It is entirely reasonable to show how you've handed your mail to gmail and they refused it without actionable explanation, so it is a problem between the recipient and gmail.
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#148I feel like if people are gonna take back email this process needs to be easier; like a single application with a web front-end. Hosting email is a pain! This is why everyone seems to outsource their email hosting. Read the comments in the 2017 discussion. Favorite quote: "I run my own mail infrastructure. To say the least I wouldn't recommend it even to my worst enemies. It's horrible." https://news.ycombinator.com/…
This is a kind of interesting product in that arena: https://thehelm.com/
It's sort of a managed server that lives in your home. I'm not sure whether that's actually better than having your data out in the cloud or whether it's more on the security theater end of the spectrum, but it is interesting.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don't care if people don't get my mail This is the type of nonsense I expect from HN. Well done.
When someone in a company agrees on a meeting in their office with someone from outside the company, and the visitor arrives at time well-dressed and is rejected by the companies security without any explanation, then who is at fault? It is not the visitor, it is the awful cooperation between the person in the company and their companies security. It is entirely reasonable to show how you've handed your mail to gmail…
GMail being at fault isn't going to make up for a missed invitation (or RSVP) to a special event, or not getting a note of congratulations on an accomplishment, or not getting a message of condolences.
Assigning blame is done after the fact to make up for a mistake.
Just avoid the mistake.
Re: How to run your own mail server (2017)
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Agreed! I've been running my own mail server for 20+ years, and I would not recommend that anybody do this on a lark. Deliverability to GMail is a huge problem for me and has been for years. I even asked friends at Google to find out what the story was. All I got back is that the mail group was so careful/paranoid it wouldn't talk to them either. I would long ago have switched over to a vendor, but I use qmail-style…
Curious why you're so attached to the qmail style subaddressing. Personal preference or is there a technical advantage?
I've given out hundreds and hundreds of them. Almost any time I fill in an email address on a form, I'll tag it so I know where spammers and other miscreants get their addresses from. As have a number of friends I host mail for. Swapping to a mail provider that doesn't support them would be a giant pain for all concerned.