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Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by tracer4201 »

Someone1234 wrote: post #222
tracer4201 wrote: post #205

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The Xbox One S for $150 is 7 year old hardware. I would hands down pay $130 if I don’t need to be concerned with hardware and can play with the latest and greatest graphics. I haven’t tried Stadia but just wanting to make the larger point.

Only if you assume Stadia will be around seven years from now. You're essentially talking about spending $60 on game licenses, plus $130 on hardware, that may ultimately no longest exist in a few years. At least I can reasonably assume an XBox One S digital purchased today will still "basically work" five-seven years from now. I won't assume that about Stadia.

If it’s not around, for me thats okay. I bought a PS3 just before the PS4 came out. I’ve had it since 2012 - about 7 years. I haven’t touched it in quite a while.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by rchaud »

smnrchrds wrote: post #176
kingbirdy wrote: post #139

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Stadia doesn't prevent you from owning your own hardware, nor will it. It's just another option for people who can't afford to own hardware.

Imagine if we had this conversation 10 years ago: - I don't like streaming services, because content can disappear/the quality is lower/... - Streaming doesn't prevent you from owning your own DVDs/BDs , nor will it And now in 2019, there are so many films and tv shows only released through streaming services, and never sold on disks.

The films and shows that are "streaming-only" in 2019 are the equivalent of "straight-to-DVD" in the 00s.

Besides marquee projects like House of Cards, Fleabag etc, the vast majority of original programming on these networks are badly made formulaic pap with actors no-one's ever heard of. Were it not for the recommendation algorithm (and the removal of the user reviews), I doubt anybody would bother watching them.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by turtlebits »

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs.

It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays.

The only part that stumps me is why you need pay $130 for a controller and a Chromecast with "special" software on it. Isn't the whole premise that you don't need dedicated hardware to play games?

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by cannonedhamster »

frayesto wrote: post #274
cannonedhamster wrote: post #189

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Just recently lost a major syncing ability and became less useful.

What syncing ability are you referring to?

Between Drive and Photos. Also it's only one way now, up, you can no longer sync photos between computers. It was major news for Photos users when it happened. I'll provide a link for more info. There was a large amount of functionality lost when this happened. Iirc it also dropped the ability to save Photos in native resolutions higher than the compressed Google format but I'm not 100% on that since I sync my family photos using Plex to my own server.

https://www.talkandroid.com/341036-google-drops-photo-syncin...

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by ssully »

odessacubbage wrote: post #258
sjs382 wrote: post #237

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> Stadia costs $129 with no games. Stadia is a service which Google says will be free in 2020. The $129 "Stadia FE" is a controller ($79 a la carte) and a Chromecast Ultra ($69 a la carte). "Stadia FE" also comes with two games: Destiny 2 and Samurai Showdown.

the fact that google is trying to to use a fighting game to showcase their product should tell you everything you need to know about their understanding of the market.

Can you elaborate on this comment? I really don't understand what you are trying to say

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by turtlebits »

OedipusRex wrote: post #89

I said this in another thread about Stadia, the market for Stadia is vanishingly small. The people who have high enough internet speeds that either can't or won't get a "traditional" console or PC is extremely small. Too small to signal to Google that this is worth maintaining ( https://killedbygoogle.com/ ). For Stadia to survive, Google needs to bring in new "gamers", because existing "gamers" already have their ow…

Disagree, there are a ton of professionals that would love to play current games casually, but don't want to spend on extra hardware (or even having another device around), and waste time with game patches/updates.

For me, I just don't want to lug around a bulky/heavy device in addition to my primary notebook just to play the occasional game or two.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by jshaqaw »

Stadia interests me. I haven’t played games in a long time because dabbling back into them after decades I don’t want to make a major commitment to buy equipment and keep it up to cutting edge. Plus I really like my iPad form factor for games. At the end of a long work day sitting at a desk in front of a computer I really don’t want to be sitting at a desk in front of a computer.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by shinteao »

turtlebits wrote: post #293

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…

>all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs.

I think most people who like playing video games would have some sort of video game playing hardware, yes.

So, they might have opinions on what a good gaming experience is. And, if they have issues with Stadia (incl latency, graphical fidelity, and library), then it might be coming from an informed place.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by krzyk »

turtlebits wrote: post #293

"Gamers" don't want Stadia. And all the negative reviews of Stadia are by people who already have console/gaming PCs. It's targeted for those that don't have either, like me. I carry my Pixelbook everywhere and would be nice to play games on it. I don't want another device to carry around and don't have the time or patience to wait for patches/updates or the ridiculous storage requirements games have nowadays. The on…

Controller and chromecast is for console guys, we laptop owners can use mouse+keyboard + chrome browser to play. But this will be available later, unless you want o throw $130 for just 3 months of Stadia Pro (and a controller+chromecast that will gather dust).

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Post by krzyk »

tonmoy wrote: post #114
Someone1234 wrote: post #94

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> I've read reviews yesterday and was amazed by the lack of a long term vision from the reviewers. In my experience you should should never buy a product for what it might be one day and instead only pay for the what you're getting on day one. That way you're never disappointed/always get what you paid for. For example I recently purchased an Oculus Rift. I waited until enough games released so that I couldn't be dis…

> Stadia costs $129 with no games No, stadia founder’s edition costs $129. The regular 1080p stadia is free

> The regular 1080p stadia is free

Will be free, somewhere in 2020

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