Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

Post by srean » Sun, Jan 30, 2011, 9:18 AM UTC

endtime wrote: post #102

mambodog wrote: post #57

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As I mentioned below, I find it disingenuous that people often use the term 'anti-semitic' when they mean 'anti-Israel', as if any judgement on the actions of the state of Israel automatically implies hate of Jewish people.

It's obviously not the case that all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. However, it should be equally obvious that some is; surely the anti-Semites that do exist will criticize Israel. So the question is how to distinguish the legitimate criticism from the anti-Semitic criticism. I don't have an answer to this question, unfortunately. One (flawed) test that's often proposed is to see whether the criticism is propor…

Post by endtime » Sun, Jan 30, 2011, 9:44 AM UTC

srean wrote: post #111

endtime wrote: post #102

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It's obviously not the case that all criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic. However, it should be equally obvious that some is; surely the anti-Semites that do exist will criticize Israel. So the question is how to distinguish the legitimate criticism from the anti-Semitic criticism. I don't have an answer to this question, unfortunately. One (flawed) test that's often proposed is to see whether the criticism is propor…

I criticize the Indian government all the time. But I find it strange that for my criticisms to be taken seriously I also have to criticize all other countries equally. I may be the most anti Indian person in the world, but should that discredit my criticism if its valid ? I got thrown off by the terminology "anti-Semitic criticism". From the context it seems to mean: criticism by an "anti Semitic" person, you probab…

Post by varjag » Sun, Jan 30, 2011, 10:13 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #112

ajays wrote: post #56

Every time Al Jazeera is brought up, people claim that it is anti-semitic, racist, anti-US, etc. But to that I say: so what? Do you think Americans are that stupid that they won't see antisemitism? Do you think we're little children who can't think for ourselves? As the old adage goes, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". If Al Jazeera is indeed "the enemy", then all the more reason to make Al Jazeera…

while they worked for BBC, they were unbiased; but the moment they started working for AJ The BBC is generally regarded as being anti-Israel: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/bbc-fights-to-sup... When people say a news source is "unbiased" they really mean "agrees with me".

Post by yread » Sun, Jan 30, 2011, 10:42 AM UTC

jacobmg wrote: post #78

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> "They do seem" as a claim on it's own has no persuasive power. Sorry. I meant they seem to _me_ I wasn't asserting a general truth. I am just one of the HNers here. So it is more of a personal observation. > Look, it even comes with allusions to the comparison of Israel and the Nazis! ---- excerpt from first article ------ In mid-January, dozens of young Jews attacked Muslims at a mosque in Yafo or Jaffa, the histo…

It is easy to draw intuitive statistical conclusions in a small town ; you bet if there weren't usually race based violence in a small town, that if you saw 4-5 incidents in a short period of time, there would be very few non-racism based explanations that were plausible. Israel is 7.5 million people with 75% Jews. That provides a large enough pool of incidents of Jews attacking Muslims to draw from just because ther…

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 30, 2011, 10:52 AM UTC

teyc wrote: post #55

jacobmg wrote: post #52

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> Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance? You don't seem to have listened. It wasn't about that one article, it was about their coverage of the issue, which is skewed in one obvious direction. And by the way, the article is nothing more than a bunch of anecdotes misrepresented as an accurate representation of the issue (the article itself even ack…

Jacob, are you in Israel? Would you care to shed some perspective? For instance, are the races segregated? Are children taught to distrust other races? Are they taught all peoples are equal?