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I dont want my country to become once again a russian satellite. China is too far away but will feed Russia to influence my part of the world.
Seriously muricans get your shit together.
Aight, conspiracy theory time. I'm becoming concerned about PRC influence in my country (USA). From my perspective the PRC (government) is blatantly evil, and happily engaging in cultural warfare, and nobody seems to be fighting back. I see absurd astroturfing and shilling on social media here (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook). It's always obvious - whereas a genuine criticizer of the Hong Kong protestors might ask about v…
The level of infiltration of the 50 cent army on YouTube is absurd. I don't know if you can post links in comments, but try this video on decoupling and read the comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSbAZGd_Dj0 some comments from pro CCP: ``` decoupling is good, US collapses faster. ``` ``` Why accuse China of nationalism? In the past they said "Good Christians" and today they say "Patriots". It's the same old t…
Aight, conspiracy theory time. I'm becoming concerned about PRC influence in my country (USA). From my perspective the PRC (government) is blatantly evil, and happily engaging in cultural warfare, and nobody seems to be fighting back. I see absurd astroturfing and shilling on social media here (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook). It's always obvious - whereas a genuine criticizer of the Hong Kong protestors might ask about v…
Or if you go to any high end department store, more than half the models in ads are not Chinese. The models present a luxurious, enviable lifestyle.
Any random Chinese person can name at least 10 Hollywood celebrities and hum 10 American songs.
This type of “influence” is much more powerful than what China is currently capable of. And until Americans are like that, I’m not worried at all about “Chinese influence.”
Now if you are strictly talking about government sponsored astroturfing, then look up Operation Earnest Voice and Project Mockingbird.
I also recommend Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent.
Throwaway account since I don’t dare discuss some topics with my real account
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The way I see it, the Chinese government doesn't care what you do as long as you don't challenge it. The US on the other hand seems intent on enforcing its whims everywhere on the globe it can. War on terror, war on drugs, war on encryption, war on financial privacy, war on intellectual property infringement. To quote CS Lewis: "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. Th…
I think we can criticize both the Chinese Govt as well as our own government. For instance, China sees no holdback from imprisoning and killing anyone on the thinnest of pretenses, it's basically wielding ultimate authoritarian power to ruin or end lives. On the other hand, the US actually wields a similar authoritarian imprisonment power much more frequently than China, actually more than almost any nation in the wo…
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I think there’s a bit of hysteria here. Tiktok have completely separated their Chinese business and international one, with international server hosted outside China. Saying that data collection is funneled to CCP is like accusing any US company of _potential_ acquisition of foreign data by the US government. Or to rephrase, no Chinese business should have the ability to operate elsewhere because they are from China?…
it is actually very doubtful even tiktok has a separate section for internationals. for example, do you trust huawei's international operations?
I don't need to trust anyone to verify the things that I can verify myself.
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At the same time we have the rise of long form podcasts. Producing quite the opposite effect.
I would suspect two very different demographics.
Relevant crosslink in this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21575365
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The level of infiltration of the 50 cent army on YouTube is absurd. I don't know if you can post links in comments, but try this video on decoupling and read the comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSbAZGd_Dj0 some comments from pro CCP: ``` decoupling is good, US collapses faster. ``` ``` Why accuse China of nationalism? In the past they said "Good Christians" and today they say "Patriots". It's the same old t…
One thing you can do it reply to those comments with some copypasta about the Tiananmen Square protests. Something like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/aphqv6/for_every...
Aight, conspiracy theory time. I'm becoming concerned about PRC influence in my country (USA). From my perspective the PRC (government) is blatantly evil, and happily engaging in cultural warfare, and nobody seems to be fighting back. I see absurd astroturfing and shilling on social media here (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook). It's always obvious - whereas a genuine criticizer of the Hong Kong protestors might ask about v…
Think of it this way, go to any movie theater in China and almost half the movies are Hollywood movies. Or if you go to any high end department store, more than half the models in ads are not Chinese. The models present a luxurious, enviable lifestyle. Any random Chinese person can name at least 10 Hollywood celebrities and hum 10 American songs. This type of “influence” is much more powerful than what China is curre…
There is plenty of evidence showing China's propogandistic influence on Hollywood movies. References to Tibet, Taiwan, etc. are often removed.
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I don't think the above commenter was defending China, so much as pointing out that the US does much worse. Each one of your bullets is true, and more extremely applicable to the US.
Chinese organ harvesting is surely beyond what the US is doing.
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I think we can criticize both the Chinese Govt as well as our own government. For instance, China sees no holdback from imprisoning and killing anyone on the thinnest of pretenses, it's basically wielding ultimate authoritarian power to ruin or end lives. On the other hand, the US actually wields a similar authoritarian imprisonment power much more frequently than China, actually more than almost any nation in the wo…
What!? A few thousand migrant families arrested at us border is bad. Agreed. But million minorities in re-education camps with organ harvesting is really bad. Not even close on the scale of shittyness.