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Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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I have tinnitus because of beta blockers. One I switched treatment and it disappeared, that was a huge relief.

Unfortunately, without beta blockers my pulse hovers at 100BPM when sitting, 120BPM when standing and 220BPM after climbing 10 stair-steps. So I have not much choice but live with tinnitus...

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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You watch those DIY guides be region blocked to "everywhere but the USA" because the fines for even publishing the design of an unapproved medical device are massive.

Just market it as DIY head sexual massage device?

Agreed. And also add, "may have the unintended side effect of alleviating tinnitus symptoms. These statements have not been reviewed by the FDA. Wash device before applying to the skull."

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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I hear it right now. Doesn't everyone?

My office has plenty of hum and hiss, so no.

This is exactly my problem as well. How would I actually be able to differentiate high pitches (which I hear constantly) from noisy electronics and power supplies? The times where I'm out in deep nature with utter quiet (e.g. no airplane flying overhead at 30,000 feet) is so rare that I couldn't say I'd achieved homeostasis with silence. So really I spend 99% of my life in near proximity (within 30') of some cheap electronics that could very well be the source of this constant high pitch background noise. Or it's me.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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> It's as if my ear is trying to compensate for the lack of sound. Holy crap. You just blew my mind. "Silence is deafening" makes more than just figurative sense. From a young age, I've always noticed a light ringing while in extremely quiet places. Not enough to bother me, but enough to notice my ears straining to hear sound.

I hear it right now. Doesn't everyone?

I’m not sure how old you are, but can 42 year old me give you some advice? Go get a hearing test. If I would have known about my tinnitus at 22, I would have a noticeably higher quality of life at 42...

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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Edit: if you are going to do this by yourself, please do let us know in this thread how it went for you! I hate to be an anecdotal n = 1 'experiment'. Note: this technique has some risks. Especially when you practice by yourself. The biggest one is that scientifically speaking, experts are a bit unfamiliar with it. I can only offer anecdotal experience. There are some articles written about it [1], but I wonder if th…

> Note: this technique has some risks. Especially when you practice by yourself. The biggest one is that scientifically speaking, experts are a bit unfamiliar with it. I can only offer anecdotal experience. I will also offer an anecdotal experience. I went to a "breathwork" seminar once that involved doing a form of hyperventilation (but without the breath holding part which is what Wim Hof also incorporates I believ…

The worst I have seen is that one person was unconscious for 3 minutes. We were doing it with medical staff and they started to get the oxygen masks. Just before the mask was on he gained consciousness. As far as we all could tell, he didn't have a single issue. This guy could go crazy long without oxygen though, more than 3 minutes and 30 seconds. He was out for almost 7 minutes.

I asked the doctors how it could be that he didn't sustain damage. They offered the following conjecture: since we're not in water, you still get some oxygen. So your oxygen count is very low, but not zero.

I also have to note that, everyone has been fine with the breathing part of the technique. I have trained 4 people myself, and have seen about 10 others being trained (with doctor supervision). The part where it gets a bit exciting is only during the holding your breath part.

I think there's a huge difference in sort of/kinda 'hyperventilating' for 30 breaths (it is slightly different [1]) and then stop breathing at all versus 'hyperventilating' for 20 minutes straight.

[1] The bulk of the WHM breathing technique looks like hyperventilating. There is one huge difference though: you breath out as you normally do. In hyperventilation you breath out as fast as possible to breath in again as fast as possible. So the WHM breathing technique, while fast on the in-breath, is on average not super fast because of a normal speed out-breath.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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post #123

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My office has plenty of hum and hiss, so no.

This is exactly my problem as well. How would I actually be able to differentiate high pitches (which I hear constantly) from noisy electronics and power supplies? The times where I'm out in deep nature with utter quiet (e.g. no airplane flying overhead at 30,000 feet) is so rare that I couldn't say I'd achieved homeostasis with silence. So really I spend 99% of my life in near proximity (within 30') of some cheap el…

I have tinnitus and haven’t talked about this with other sufferers so this may just be me. But if I slowly plug and unplug my ears, the difference between tinnitus and all the background shit is obvious. The only way I can describe it is that the sound comes from a different place and when you change how your ear works, you can hear the differences between the sources. My hearing is awful so I really pray this anecdata is of no use to you.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

#127
I had a ringing for a weekend and found and used this extensively https://github.com/generalfuzz/acrn

I remember it being after some loud event. But I honestly can't remember.

It went away. But it might not have been tinnitus and just an ear infection. Or it might have helped, I'm just one sample size.

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

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post #123

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My office has plenty of hum and hiss, so no.

This is exactly my problem as well. How would I actually be able to differentiate high pitches (which I hear constantly) from noisy electronics and power supplies? The times where I'm out in deep nature with utter quiet (e.g. no airplane flying overhead at 30,000 feet) is so rare that I couldn't say I'd achieved homeostasis with silence. So really I spend 99% of my life in near proximity (within 30') of some cheap el…

Ear plugs. If you can drop the surrounding noise by 35+db, you'll notice what's tinnitus and what's ambient noise.

Funny story related to this question, one day in a conference room I thought my tinnitus was just particularly bad, until someone went and turned off some unused AV equipment. The pitch of the electronic noise was identical to my personal tinnitus (and different than someone else's - they commented that it wasn't the right pitch for them).

Re: We ‘may’ have discovered a potential remedy for tinnitus

#129
Finding a cure or treatment for tinnitus would be awesome. I have a very mild case from a few too many loud concerts.

What I find amazing is how we don't attack the source of the problem much that I can see. Concerts, clubs, fireworks, even movies blast away above any reasonable level, causing damage to large parts of the population. We all just get progressively damaged hearing bit by bit. And yet there's very little policing of this that I have seen. It's just another form of pollution that's being imposed on people, often in public places where they haven't even had a choice (e.g., the fireworks case) or have a very poor choice (e.g., not going out with friends over this because they want to go to a rock concert).

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