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Re: USS Pueblo

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A foolhardy idea would be to surreptitiously go there while some other action is happening elsewhere and tug it out. Now, it’d be difficult to pull off and offers no upside and lots of downside, but it’d be very intrepid to pull off.

But what do you want to do with a 75 year old boat?

Re: USS Pueblo

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post #7

A foolhardy idea would be to surreptitiously go there while some other action is happening elsewhere and tug it out. Now, it’d be difficult to pull off and offers no upside and lots of downside, but it’d be very intrepid to pull off.

But what do you want to do with a 75 year old boat?

The boat? Not much. It’s the act that offers value.

Re: USS Pueblo

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen this come up a lot recently. Antisemitic, alt-right grifters have been using this incident as some sort of dogwhistle

I've seen the word "grifter" come up a lot recently. Anti-white people have been using the fact that people point out uncomfortable moments in history as some sort of dogwhistle

Looks like the whistle is working lol

Re: USS Pueblo

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post #2

Another interesting spy ship saga is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I've seen this come up a lot recently. Antisemitic, alt-right grifters have been using this incident as some sort of dogwhistle

Dogwhistle for what? I'm genuinely curious, I don't know what that could be used as a dogwhistle for.

Re: USS Pueblo

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what do you want to do with a 75 year old boat?

The boat? Not much. It’s the act that offers value.

> The boat? Not much. It’s the act that offers value.

The value of invading another sovereign nation's territory in order to repatriate some hunk object that has purely symbolic value?

Hardly seems worth the cost and massive fallout that would ensure.

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Visited this last year, remarkably good condition. The Koreans were very keen to point out the size of the armoury and guns on board the ship.

I suppose that's to be expected from the North Koreans, but it's rather funny, since the ship is actually very lightly armed. Wikipedia says it only has 2 M2 Brownings aboard, does the North Korean museum claim it was armed with more, or do they claim that's heavily armed?

Re: USS Pueblo

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post #2

Another interesting spy ship saga is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

I've seen this come up a lot recently. Antisemitic, alt-right grifters have been using this incident as some sort of dogwhistle

“Dogwhistle?”

English has plenty of words. Use some that convey something.

Re: USS Pueblo

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The boat? Not much. It’s the act that offers value.

> The boat? Not much. It’s the act that offers value. The value of invading another sovereign nation's territory in order to repatriate some hunk object that has purely symbolic value? Hardly seems worth the cost and massive fallout that would ensure.

First it’s not an invasion, it’s an incursion. Like I said upthread, it’s got lots of downside but little upside. But the upside would be quite triumphant.

Re: USS Pueblo

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Hah, fun! Visited this a few years back. It's in great condition, particularly memorable things were the bullet holes (all highlighted in red paint) and the intro video[0], which is worth watching if only to experience the extremely distinct North Korean English accent. [0]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95qtd2Mwnpg

How were you able to visit it, honest question? As an American myself, I wouldn't dare set foot in that country. Was a visit there an easy experience? Would you go back?

Before the state department banned travel there, it was quite easy as a US passport holder. You apply through a tour company based in China who will handle the arrangements. You show up in Beijing, collect your visa booklet (they don't stamp your passport), and fly into Pyongyang.
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