This is one thing Trump is doing that should get broad support. It probably won’t though, because some people are physically incapable of agreeing with him.
Hospitals pledge to fight admin price transparency plan in court
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#12I would be awesome to see more sites like this:
Wish it worked with insurance
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#13This is IMO the "simple solution" to healthcare -
nothing will bring down healthcare costs faster than the following
- be allowed to choose
- know how much something costs
- pay some of the cost themselves (co-pay, health savings account) etc.
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#14Of course doctors and hospitals don't want price transparency. That would create pricing competition, which would drive down consumer prices, lower profit margins, and force them to become more efficient. Price transparency is one of the key elements of the highly successful Singapore healthcare system. Add in universal tax-free (or tax-deferred) Health Savings Accounts, and we could not only improve the US healthcare system but also help more Americans save for retirement and build wealth. There's no excuse not to try simple regulatory solutions before committing to a massive government takeover. I hope we get bipartisan support for price transparency.
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#15I don't think anyone who has had to pay hospital bills would agree with the hospital lobby's decision to fight this. The article's title makes it give the impression this is okay because, orange man bad, however regardless of the party pushing for transparency it is something everyone would benefit from (other than the heal care industry/insurance company's profits).
I thoroughly dislike the bad orange man, but I will save my strongest words for a more appropriate forum. That said, just because you may dislike someone doesn't mean that you have to opposed everything they do. I do agree with this push for price transparency.
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#16I don't think anyone who has had to pay hospital bills would agree with the hospital lobby's decision to fight this. The article's title makes it give the impression this is okay because, orange man bad, however regardless of the party pushing for transparency it is something everyone would benefit from (other than the heal care industry/insurance company's profits).
To be clear, I think in virtually all respects orange man indeed is very bad. This headline suggested to me that orange man may actually be attempting something worthwhile.
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#17Here in Canada, there is no price transparency whatsoever. Just when people are facing the stress and uncertainty of fighting a crisis like Cancer, they are given absolutely no inkling what their treatment will cost. When a physician makes an appointment for you with a plastic surgeon to discuss reconstructive surgery... No transparency about the cost. When they prescribe chemotherapy... No transparency about what th…
There are shades of bad. The US health care system with price transparency is better than the US health care system without it.
The same procedure can cost 1,000x more if you go across town. It's been long reported that Hospitals mostly pull prices out of their asses. The health care problem in the US is not just a health insurance problem, it is also a health care provider problem. Even if you had a single payer system, pricing like this is insane.
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#18This is purely anecdotal, but I had a 15 minute (literally) ultrasound. Hospital "facility use" fee: $800. 15 minutes of technician's time: $250. Bill came down to $650 after adjustments. This is messed up. I imagine people with serious health problems just kill themselves or ruin their lives forever.
As a comparison: For ultrasound, the price range in Germany is 100-200€ - but our hospitals don't have to inflate prices to account for non-paying patients and the salaries/other overhead costs are lower too...
If the US wants to get rid of horribly high sticker prices it needs a reform of how stuff is paid for, especially homeless/unemployed/undocumented patients. In Germany, the state covers insurance premiums for the first two categories and undocumented/asylum seeking patients only get life-saving treatments (truly inhumane if you ask me).
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#19Here in Canada, there is no price transparency whatsoever. Just when people are facing the stress and uncertainty of fighting a crisis like Cancer, they are given absolutely no inkling what their treatment will cost. When a physician makes an appointment for you with a plastic surgeon to discuss reconstructive surgery... No transparency about the cost. When they prescribe chemotherapy... No transparency about what th…
There are lots of sick people who want to know how much their treatment options cost. Not just Americans, but Canadians as well (I know some).
When you have a poorly understood illness that is killing you you have two choices: pay out of pocket or die. It doesn't matter if your country has universal health care or not because treatments will not be covered until they go through a lengthy (decades) approval process. If your illness is controversial then it will be even longer.
It doesn't harm anyone to publish real healthcare prices. Please do not fight something that will harm no one. This will benefit some of the most neglected people in society.
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#20This is one thing Trump is doing that should get broad support. It probably won’t though, because some people are physically incapable of agreeing with him.
Right. I'm over here like WTF I love hospitals and insurance companies now?