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TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

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Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

#101

From a fraud perspective, it would be extremely cheap to fake downloads. Since Chinese companies aren't audited the same way US companies are, yet they can still list on exchanges, having some outside "probable" growth metric gives more credibility to their internal numbers. I'm not saying it's all fake. I'm just saying it wouldn't take very much resources to fake this, and ByteDance has the resources, and we don't r…

It's probably not fake. My teenage sister has gone from "TikTok is so cringey" a few months ago to "I actually kind of like it". It's now socially acceptable to use so it's in the clear. I saw someone using it on the airplane last week too.

I have children, all the children are using it. The other day two famous TikTokers we're spotted in a Northern VA mall and it was a pretty big deal. It's not fake.

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

#102
My daughter and her friends are using Tiktok and Snapchat. It seems these two are mostly popular for teenagers. That was also the user base of Instagram in the first years. To be honest I'm trying to get her off both of these services and instead rely on texting/hangouts/email/etc to communicate with her friends.

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

#103
The biggest headline should be this:

    Essentially, TikTok is the only app in the top five that isn't owned by Facebook.
Do you trust Facebook to influence your children with toxic content and propaganda in the top 5 app downloads all owned by Facebook? I don't.

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

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"It is the third most-downloaded app outside of gaming this year. Numbers one and two are WhatsApp and Messenger, while four and five are the Facebook app and Instagram." Facebook owns 4/5 of the most downloaded apps - just let that sink in for a minute. This space needs competition pretty badly.

While I do agree that this space needs competition, I can't see a scenario in which this can happen. The combined user base of all the facebook apps is a considerable percentage of the world's population. Take out people with no access to internet or living in dictatorship or dictatorship-like regimes and you get probably north of 90% of all internet users. I know people in their 70's and 80's using facebook at this…

Competition in this space is clearly possible, or we wouldn't be discussing TikTok.

New to the Internet and young people have less qualms about trying things and are often able to spread things with word of mouth.

Google plus got mired down in the real name policy and the account consolidation and the usually problems associated with Google (which includes an association with Google).

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

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post #11

"It is the third most-downloaded app outside of gaming this year. Numbers one and two are WhatsApp and Messenger, while four and five are the Facebook app and Instagram." Facebook owns 4/5 of the most downloaded apps - just let that sink in for a minute. This space needs competition pretty badly.

Worth noting that these are apps you have to download to use. You don't need to download the Reddit app for example to use Reddit.

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

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post #11

"It is the third most-downloaded app outside of gaming this year. Numbers one and two are WhatsApp and Messenger, while four and five are the Facebook app and Instagram." Facebook owns 4/5 of the most downloaded apps - just let that sink in for a minute. This space needs competition pretty badly.

I knew teenagers weren't on Facebook anymore, so I asked my niece what she uses with her friends: WhatsApp groups and Instagram.

Then I realized how good Facebook knows its market.

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

#109
post #51

Aight, conspiracy theory time. I'm becoming concerned about PRC influence in my country (USA). From my perspective the PRC (government) is blatantly evil, and happily engaging in cultural warfare, and nobody seems to be fighting back. I see absurd astroturfing and shilling on social media here (Reddit, Twitter, Facebook). It's always obvious - whereas a genuine criticizer of the Hong Kong protestors might ask about v…

You’re right

Re: TikTok hits 1.5B downloads, outperforming Instagram

#110

From a fraud perspective, it would be extremely cheap to fake downloads. Since Chinese companies aren't audited the same way US companies are, yet they can still list on exchanges, having some outside "probable" growth metric gives more credibility to their internal numbers. I'm not saying it's all fake. I'm just saying it wouldn't take very much resources to fake this, and ByteDance has the resources, and we don't r…

It's probably not fake. My teenage sister has gone from "TikTok is so cringey" a few months ago to "I actually kind of like it". It's now socially acceptable to use so it's in the clear. I saw someone using it on the airplane last week too.

My gut says it's a real trend, but the numbers are still juiced.
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