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Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Stadia exists because Google wants to create more opportunities to show video advertising. What better way to do this than to turn games into another type of streaming video. Pre-roll before the game starts, mid-roll in between levels. When players stream games to other views, more pre-roll before they watch.

You could just pay for the subscription and skip the ads though, similar to netflix or disney+.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Android, Maps, GSuite All of these products have existed for 5+ years. What recent thing has Google brought to the table that actually stuck?

Probably their cloud offering and / or parts thereof, e.g. Firebase.

Firebase was bought, not developed by Google itself.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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With smaller devices like laptops and netbooks (along with smartphones) becoming increasingly popular, Stadia caters to people who don't want to invest in a second device just for gaming. I know several people who only own a laptop and are interested in this service; I'm sure the market is there. The main challenge, though, is that they are late to the competition -- NVIDIA GeForce NOW seems much more mature (the afo…

The biggest advantage that GeForce NOW has is that it just runs regular PC executables. Games for Stadia need to be compiled specifically for Stadia, and I have no idea why developers would spend the time and money building yet another version of their games, unless Stadia turns out to be incredibly popular or Google throws a lot of money at them.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Stadia is and will remain laughable because it has absolutely no answer for VR content and is a laggy mess in the best conditions. If a partnership between AT&T and NVidia couldn’t crack this egg, why in the world would Google be able to? It’s a physics problem that cannot be overcome. The hubris of Google to tout this platform is incredibly annoying as a gamer.

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Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Stadia to me may not be ready yet, but I have no doubt in the future this is how we will be gaming. Once bandwidth is ubiquitous enough to stream 4K games at 60 FPS without having to INSTALL anything or even OWN A GAMING PC/CONSOLE, this is a no brainer. Why shell out for a new 2080TI card when you can just pay another month to Stadia and let them handle all the hardware to run Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4k 60 FPS? No…

If bandwidth is good enough to handle 4K 60 FPS game streaming, downloading or patching a 150 GB game will be breezy enough it won't bother you much anyways.

Bear in mind, the Washington Post reviewer who was showing how bad Stadia was on the office's gigabit connection was speedtesting at 291 Mbps down at the time.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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I want Stadia. I've read reviews yesterday and was amazed by the lack of a long term vision from the reviewers. If Google doesn't drop the ball (which is a huge if knowing the company's history), Stadia makes a lot of sense.

I want to play Red Dead Redemption 2, the cheapest way to do that as I don't have a console nor an expensive computer is Stadia. And when I will want to play Cyberpunk 2077, Stadia will be the cheapest option - again. It will be the most enjoyable option too: no installation, no upgrade, I can just play. Last but not least: apart from the Switch, consoles force me to use a TV, Stadia will be usable on my Mac in the kitchen or the bedroom.

As someone who stopped playing after high school, Stadia is the first offering that matches my needs of a Netflix for games. I don't care if gamers nor teenagers want it, as long as developers make money and people like me use it the business model will work.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Stadia exists because Google is a perpetual spaghetti throwing machine. Mainframe-style gaming is possible and they have the resources to try it so... here we are. If it doesn't take off, Google will have no problem killing the program in 3 or 4 years. That said, I really don't see the problem with this strategy. It surely makes much more sense than having an ever growing stable of also-ran offerings. The upshot of c…

>Android, Maps, GSuite All of these products have existed for 5+ years. What recent thing has Google brought to the table that actually stuck?

That's an oxymoron: how can you tell if it has stuck if it's recent?

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Seems to me that it would be very good for people who have fiber connections at home and are close to a Google datacenter (or just don't care about latency), and want to enjoy gaming on a high-end GPU without having to pay for it and own a physical desktop computer (perhaps because they don't have the budget, or play games rarely, or buying a desktop computer is hard or uncomfortable for them).

If you want to enjoy gaming on a high-end GPU, you almost certainly care about latency.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Stadia to me may not be ready yet, but I have no doubt in the future this is how we will be gaming. Once bandwidth is ubiquitous enough to stream 4K games at 60 FPS without having to INSTALL anything or even OWN A GAMING PC/CONSOLE, this is a no brainer. Why shell out for a new 2080TI card when you can just pay another month to Stadia and let them handle all the hardware to run Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4k 60 FPS? No…

I can see it running many games in "very good" frame rates and quality. But the economics don't make sense for Google if it tries to match the true high end PC configs. Once RDR2 is at 60fps, there will be other games pushing the envelope that won't be at 60fps on Stadia. Same applies to other consoles, of course... I'm saying that PC Gaming will still allow premium experiences for a while.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Android, Maps, GSuite All of these products have existed for 5+ years. What recent thing has Google brought to the table that actually stuck?

Probably their cloud offering and / or parts thereof, e.g. Firebase.

Their cloud offerings are a distant third to Microsoft and Amazon and support - especially enterprise support - is legendarily bad.
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