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"Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#11
Stadia is and will remain laughable because it has absolutely no answer for VR content and is a laggy mess in the best conditions. If a partnership between AT&T and NVidia couldn’t crack this egg, why in the world would Google be able to? It’s a physics problem that cannot be overcome. The hubris of Google to tout this platform is incredibly annoying as a gamer.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#12

Offtopic, but why someone bothers to type a proper blogpost in Twitter? It's such a crap experience read something there that multiple thread reader projects exists. I can only think of the simplicity to publish content makes it too easy for lazy authors.

I scroll with my mouse to read pages, and the very slow scrolling amount on this "threader.app" was very frustrating.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#13
The strange thing about Stadia is that not only is Google making an impractical product that people don't want, but so are Sony and Microsoft. It's like the "race" to 5G or the "race" to AI, but in this case there is no prize -- you expect any hardware from Google to be a lost cause, even Microsoft has had good luck selling mice, but Sony is serious about hardware so how did they get caught up in it?

The one real advantage I see is that if you want to livestream a game it is probably more efficient to stream the game down to the player and then pipe the stream into a CDN for everyone else than it is to upload the stream and then pipe it into a CDN.

Maybe you could make a game like Titanfall or Fortnite that runs on some monster server in the cloud and hypothetically eliminates the need to share state across a network, but I think you're trading one set of problems for another set of problems.

I used to have two Sunrays and a SPARC Solaris server in my cubicle, we were hoping to use them for kiosks at a large university library (might have bought 200+) but we couldn't compile Mozilla for Solaris and all of the other browsers available for Solaris were either too old or looked like somebody's science experiment.

Today there is a real market for desktop virtualization. The Bridgewater hedge fund has switched to desktop virtualization because they are paranoid MoFo's who (1) are worried about the physical destruction of their headquarters and (2) don't want employees walking out with a laptop full of secrets. So they RDS in to cloud servers and like it that way.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#14
Stadia to me may not be ready yet, but I have no doubt in the future this is how we will be gaming.

Once bandwidth is ubiquitous enough to stream 4K games at 60 FPS without having to INSTALL anything or even OWN A GAMING PC/CONSOLE, this is a no brainer.

Why shell out for a new 2080TI card when you can just pay another month to Stadia and let them handle all the hardware to run Red Dead Redemption 2 at 4k 60 FPS?

No downloading a 150 GB game, no patching, no constant hardware upgrading, no having to go back in your catalog and reinstall everything if you get a new system. They are all there and you just "press start".

I realize Stadia currently does not run RDR2 at 4k and 60 FPS. But it will once the hardware and bandwidth landscape catches up.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#15
Seems to me that it would be very good for people who have fiber connections at home and are close to a Google datacenter (or just don't care about latency), and want to enjoy gaming on a high-end GPU without having to pay for it and own a physical desktop computer (perhaps because they don't have the budget, or play games rarely, or buying a desktop computer is hard or uncomfortable for them).

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

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post #6

Stadia exists because Google is a perpetual spaghetti throwing machine. Mainframe-style gaming is possible and they have the resources to try it so... here we are. If it doesn't take off, Google will have no problem killing the program in 3 or 4 years. That said, I really don't see the problem with this strategy. It surely makes much more sense than having an ever growing stable of also-ran offerings. The upshot of c…

>Android, Maps, GSuite

All of these products have existed for 5+ years.

What recent thing has Google brought to the table that actually stuck?

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#17
post #4

I think it exists because they've got plenty of infrastructure assets all around the world because of GCP (and are investing in more) and they're probably trying to dream up ideas to drive up utilization and gain some operating leverage on it. A consumer subscription business that depends on all your data centers would do that. That's not a really good reason to make a product though.

The same way they were able to become an ISP!

wait

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#18
post #6

Stadia exists because Google is a perpetual spaghetti throwing machine. Mainframe-style gaming is possible and they have the resources to try it so... here we are. If it doesn't take off, Google will have no problem killing the program in 3 or 4 years. That said, I really don't see the problem with this strategy. It surely makes much more sense than having an ever growing stable of also-ran offerings. The upshot of c…

>Android, Maps, GSuite All of these products have existed for 5+ years. What recent thing has Google brought to the table that actually stuck?

Probably their cloud offering and / or parts thereof, e.g. Firebase.

Re: "Google Stadia is not a product that exists because people want it"

#20

Offtopic, but why someone bothers to type a proper blogpost in Twitter? It's such a crap experience read something there that multiple thread reader projects exists. I can only think of the simplicity to publish content makes it too easy for lazy authors.

Because thats where their social network is.
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