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MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by polydut »

majewsky wrote: post #371
Symbiote wrote: post #324

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Please avoid calling the "gas duster" type cans "compressed air". It's misleading. They usually contain compressed fluorocarbons like difluoroethane. These are toxic chemicals, which are also potent greenhouse gases. Their casual use for cleaning should be discouraged.

What's a good replacement for a casual user who wants to clean their electronics? (Honest question.)

I don't know how well they perform, but I remember hearing about these https://www.canlessair.com/

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by ambicapter »

usaphp wrote: post #240
grapehut wrote: post #73

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The complaint (or at least, mine) isn't that they're bad -- it's that they're unreliable. I'm literally on my 3rd butterfly keyboard.

I am starting to think that it’s more to do with how people type, rather then a keyboard quality. Most people who get them break - go through 3-4 keyboards in a year. I am still using my 2017 butterfly and have not had a single issue with a keyboard. So it’s either 0 or 3+ replacements

I'm still using my 2011 macbook pro. The 2018 mbp I use for work started double- and triple- typing spaces within 4 months.

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Post by tecleandor »

jmull wrote: post #396
BuildTheRobots wrote: post #393

This is probably a stupid question, but why have they got two different flavours of RAM? * 16x Micron MT40A1G8SA-075 8 Gb DDR4 SDRAM (16 GB total) * 4x Samsung K4Z80325BC-HC14 8 Gb GDDR6 RAM (4 GB total)

I think the GDDR6 is for the GPU

Yep. GDDR stands for Graphics DDR.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by simonh »

brailsafe wrote: post #335
simonh wrote: post #310

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Only a tiny percentage of laptops are ever upgraded. If making the device upgradable and accessible adds the same percentage in materials then it's pretty much a wash. Also Apple devices on average have much longer service lives than devices from most other manufacturers. On average they stay usable longer, and even when they are replaced they're more likely to be handed on and keep in use even without upgradability.…

I feel like much of these claims are only in the past. I used my 2009 Macbook for 5 or so years, and it only lasted that long because I was able to upgrade it. It came with a comical 2GB of ram, and that would have been a trash—as in worthless to me—if it couldn't be upgraded. I was able to sell it, only because they're desirable, and they used to be more reliable. The latter quality is not so evident any more. Many…

>I feel like much of these claims are only in the past.

It's not actually possible to buy a new Mac with less than 8GB RAM these days, and that seems likely to be plenty for a typical user for the lifetime of a machine bought today. 128 GB SSD is a bit tight, but flash drives are cheap. I see it the opposite way, in the past minimum Mac specs always seemed miserly, but nowadays they're pretty capable.

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Post by lonelappde »

jonny383 wrote: post #176
robertoandred wrote: post #126

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Physical connectors are a main cause of those things no longer functioning. Their absence improves reliability significantly.

You mean like all Macbook keyboards from 2016-2019 Q2?

Yes, the problem with the keyboards is bad physical connectors. No one complains that their iPad touchscreen keys don't work.

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Post by Yajirobe »

polydut wrote: post #401
majewsky wrote: post #371

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What's a good replacement for a casual user who wants to clean their electronics? (Honest question.)

I don't know how well they perform, but I remember hearing about these https://www.canlessair.com/

100 bucks??

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Post by udfalkso »

karmelapple wrote: post #66
alberth wrote: post #50

Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard. Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster. Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.

I enjoy the butterfly keyboard, but once the keys started putting two spaces in when I said one, or putting two of other letters, or none of yet other letters, it got old really fast. Still like my keyboard, and would be happy to have it back if Apple fixed the reliability issues. FWIW, I like the iPad keyboard feel, too.

Try Unshaky. Helped me with multiple double key press issues

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Post by lonelappde »

saagarjha wrote: post #114
thinkloop wrote: post #91

Why doesn't apple make the touchbar out of keys? The keys could be flat on top and seamlessly adjacent to one another to make a "bar", for sliders and such. But pressable like regular keys to make great buttons (most common use-case). I feel like that is inventable.

Like the Chromebook Pixel? I don't think sliding on that would work very well, since you'd end up pressing the keys…

It has a touchbar?!

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Post by irrational »

hvidgaard wrote: post #253
bilbo0s wrote: post #223

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The 64GB of ram alone makes the new 16" a completely different machine. It really can't even be compared to the previous generations. 64 opens up a lot of possibilities in the media creation space that, realistically, were just not there with 32, and were pretty much impossible with 16 gig. Given a choice, I would much rather have had the 64 gig rather than a new keyboard. A keyboard you can put a cover on. There's n…

If 64GiB of ram makes that difference, doesn't that work belong on a workstation with the power to handle it?

My company uses freestyle seating (which sucks big time, but that's a story for a different day) which means a desktop or workstation is not a possibility for me. Anything that can make a laptop closer in power to a workstation is great in my book.
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