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Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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There are two mutually exclusive groups of people: "Concentrators(1)" and "Communicators(2)". Concentrators must have conditions that allow one to form and hold complex ideas, and act upon them. This is almost always some degree of a quiet environment, without visual or auditory distractions. the opposite of the ideal conditions of Communicators. Communicators must interact with others to do their job. (1) Typical of…

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Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

In my experience, noise cancelling headphones can make noise issues worse in some cases because they block ambient/white noises better than they block voices, sirens or other non-repetitive noise. So it just makes the distracting noises that much worse.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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Well, I work for a Fortune 150 company in not cramped offices in a not dense, not expensive city that is definitely not in the middle of nowhere. Its a great working environment in a great location with great benefits and pay. Such things do exist, you just have to get out of the bubble and look for them.

I suspect everyones definition of middle of nowhere is a bit different. For example, to a NYer or Bostonian anything outside their respective cores is "nowhere". To people further south and west it seems to be a much more expansive definition.

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Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

I'm with you - noise cancelling headphones and other tricks like white/brown/bineural noise gets tiring after half an hour or so.

Here's my solution: I listen to relaxing hip-hop in a language I don't understand, through a normal pair of Airpods or other non-noise-cancelling headphones. In my case, this is usually MC Solaar - nice calm delivery, rhythms, and music, and in French, which I barely understand. I think this music is better for me than more regular sounds (or noise cancelling) as the variety means that any noises that do make it through, don't really register. Really helps me zone out and concentrate.

I know this sounds really weird (I almost never tell anyone about this IRL!) but it works for me. YMM(definitely)V :)

(Can I also make another observation? Reading about your irritability with flat-mates and colleagues sounds like you're an introvert, who's just not getting any/enough solitary time. If so, this is a bigger fundamental problem that you need to address - headphones and French hip-hop won't help :) Maybe you should focus on finding a way to build regular quiet and solitude into your schedule, for the sake of your relationships, mental state, and well-being?)

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I suspect everyones definition of middle of nowhere is a bit different. For example, to a NYer or Bostonian anything outside their respective cores is "nowhere". To people further south and west it seems to be a much more expansive definition.

For me it's more of a suburbia vs inner city thing. I want to live where I'm a few minutes walk from a grocery store, a few bars and other amenities along with easy public access (walking, riding, public transport) to work. I could live in a large rural town if they catered to this but few seem to. The other big thing is the lack of job opportunities in smaller cities, solvable via working remotely but still relative…

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Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

In my experience, noise cancelling headphones can make noise issues worse in some cases because they block ambient/white noises better than they block voices, sirens or other non-repetitive noise. So it just makes the distracting noises that much worse.

correct. the most prominent use case for ancs is during plane trips. but I never use mine for that because I prefer the humming of the engines (literally) over the chatting, whining and music from my copassengers.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

I'm with you - noise cancelling headphones and other tricks like white/brown/bineural noise gets tiring after half an hour or so. Here's my solution: I listen to relaxing hip-hop in a language I don't understand, through a normal pair of Airpods or other non-noise-cancelling headphones. In my case, this is usually MC Solaar - nice calm delivery, rhythms, and music, and in French, which I barely understand. I think th…

I am with you too - I need my canceling headphones to be able to work. And I also listen to music that is not in my language so I can focus better.

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I’ve never understood how some people believe that the problem of too much noise could be solved by adding more noise. There’s too much light in my eyes, and dark glasses are uncomfortable. Well, have you tried shining another light at your face? Maybe a different color of light would help.

Your comment seems a bit tongue in cheek and you probably know, but anyway... Theoretically, the brain can get used to certain kinds of regular noise and filter it out, and then, if the disruption is a small sound that occurs irregularly... if you add constant white noise that's louder than the sound, then the sound should get quite literally lost in the noise. There is an analogy to light that actually applies. Imag…

If you're lucky enough to have that neural protection. Not everyone does. I don't, for instance.

I damaged my hearing trying to have enough sound to drown out the triggering sounds around me. (misophonia got a lot worse during working in open office too)

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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post #135

I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

Consider connecting wireless headphones to your laptop instead of to your phone I suggest listening to one of the following: 1. Music you don't already know because you can't hum along to them and won't get distracted by the lyrics (Spotify radios can be great, though they get repetitive if you listen to them a lot) 2. Classical music is great if not too tired otherwise it puts you to sleep 3. Deep / underground hous…

To some extent particularly screamy metal has so much noise it works pretty well too. On particularly bad days, Taake was probably the most effective - not only lyrics in an unknown language but a sound level that felt more like ocean waves, completely washing out the surrounding sound landscape.

(of course it helps if one likes this kind of thing, which I do)

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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post #135

I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

You don't have to quit! Run away to the small town without telling anyone. Just do it. Then just work from home in perpetuity until you get canned or they accept it!

In the long run that's "sort of" what I did. Except openly, publicly to work environment. I work for an employer that encourages remote work now. And yes, live in a much quieter town, about 1500km from where I used to live.... mind, I moved time zones and that's so far been the only real strain.
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