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Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

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After watching The laundromat, I think it's big news. Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth, and why they're trusted to do it. This can't be secure or safe. I'm curious about the diplomacy and the political implications of this. What if their office get robbed? What if the island gets attacked? What if one of those shady ban…

>Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth,

British Overseas Territory

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To me, the scary part about this is: After Equifax, this is another big hack... and practically, it's one layer of defense and that's it. Shellshock, one password, everything's fucked. And yes, expletives are appropriate there. The rest is largely access maintenance, keyloggers and execution. That's scary. Maybe I'll need to badger my boss about a serious pentest of everything.

Pentesters don't drop 0-days though, but yes, it shouldn't be one layer of security to bypass.

Depends who you hire and how much you pay them :).

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

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> Sure, why not? It has worked for many years before. Citation very much needed. It depends on what you mean by "working". There's references to tax evasion going back before the Roman Empire. For an example from the era of the Roman Empire, the topic of tax evasion is where the story of "give to Caesar what is his" (Mark 12:17) comes from. (I've found earlier Greek references going back to at least 300BC, but that's…

I don't think you need any citation or reference to know that even as early as 20 years ago there wasn't as much pervasive computerized record keeping and surveillance as there is now. By "worked well" I mean people paid their taxes and the overwhelming majority were law abiding. Here's one example to ponder about: if we had this kind of surveillance earlier, would things like the Civil Rights Movement and generally…

> By "worked well" I mean people paid their taxes and the overwhelming majority were law abiding.

as i understand, the "overwhelming majority" (lower and middle class) are not the focus of the problem here as they rarely use tax havens to circumvent taxes anyway (it's probably not cost effective). this is all about those who have the funds and motives to circumvent taxation, who happen to be a minority - even thought they're not a minority when it comes to taxable income; the 1% or whatever.

as for the rest of your argument, i don't completely agree. while you're probably right in practice, i.e. the authorities would have used their tools against those movements, the goals of those movements were different. the civil rights movement was probably illegal at the time but the goal was to change the laws to make it legal. same for sex. no millionaire wants to make tax evasion legal, as that would affect all tax payers, even those of the lower and middle class. they want that only for themselves.

i agree that (hard) drugs are probably a comparable example - it's illegal and puts a strain on society. on the other hand, use of hard addicting drugs can be categorized as an illness. so should we label money hoarding and tax evasion an illness? offer treatment options? allow them supervised safe spaces to evade taxes so we can offer them help?

i'm not convinced that financial privacy whould be no exception. there must be limits if it affects the others. i also don't think environmental pollution should be an issue of privacy - you shouldn't be able to pollute the air and claim it's nobodys business, as your factory stands on your own private plot of land.

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> This is another interesting part. How can the US "force" a sophisticated wealthy sovereign nation that culturally and morally values banking privacy (not only for the profits), like Switzerland? Two reasons come to mind: 1. Switzerland (like EU countries) depends a 100 % on the US for defense, in the sense it would basically turn into Russia / China overnight if the US wasn't a military power protecting them. This…

> Switzerland (like EU countries) depends a 100 % on the US for defense, in the sense it would basically turn into Russia / China overnight if the US wasn't a military power protecting them. Neither Switzerland nor the EU depend "100%" on the US for defense, far from it. Some EU countries are among the biggest military spenders in the world. It's also difficult to see how Switzerland would "turn into Russia / China o…

As a European, considering the hypothetical scenario of Russia or China steamrolling their military in to our territory I don't have much faith in how long we'd hold out. We're good at bureaucracy and social things, not at fighting.

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How else do you propose taxation is assured? Blind trust?

Tax assets not transactions. Land ownership is registered for good public purposes which does not unreasonably destroy privacy concerns - it's usually obvious who (person or business) controls the land anyway (who should a tenant pay the rent to? who gets to decide if you can be a tenant?) and it gives people a great deal of confidence that they know that whoever is recorded in the government land registry as having…

"it's usually obvious who (person or business) controls the land anyway"

That's really not the case if the asset is owned by an opaque offshore company or trust - it's then pretty much impossible to know who the beneficial owner actually is.

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VAT is regressive - that is it takes a proportionately larger chunk the poorer you are - often considered unfair. For example if I and Warren Buffet buy a car then I have spent a much larger percentage of my overall wealth than he does

Warren Buffet is likely to buy a much more expensive car, or cars. He's spending more on everything than you are. That doesn't even things up, of course, but then neither does the current system. It would arguably be closer to even. The beauty of a universal sales tax (as an alternative to income tax), in addition to the fact that the wealthy consume more of everything, is that a transaction tax is more difficult to…

> Warren Buffet is likely to buy a much more expensive car, or cars.

According to [1] Warren Buffett's house is worth .001% of his total wealth, at $652,619.

And for Warren Buffet to pay sales tax proportional to someone with $500,000 in assets buying a $50,000 car, he'd have to buy the world's most expensive car - a $5 million Koenigsegg of which only 3 were ever made - 1700 times over.

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/warren-buffett-modest-home-b...

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Anything and everything has a "dark side". That's why these, "Gasp! Oh my goodness, I can't believe there are such vile people in this world" comments piss me off. It's a clear sign of willful ignorance and naivety. The same goes with, "I can't believe people have offshore accounts. Those terrible rich people. Adam Neumann is so terrible for setting up in his contract to get a 1.7b bailout." Bitch, what would you do…

In Scandinavia, 30%+ tax rates are pretty much where people start, and it doesn't take too high an income to be right up at 35%. Yet those countries don't seem to be collapsing from tax evasion, and surely there must be some Scandinavian readers here.

Myself and most all my coworkers are on 40%, and obviously tax evasion is not on anyone's mind. I think it comes down to your social environment and values.

If I were born and raised in the US, with all that anti-government and anti-tax rhetoric around me, I might feel similarly to the impassioned gentleman or lady above. Yet as it stands I am happy to pay for taxes as I see great value in them, and I would generally be happy for a tax rise if justified and needed.

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