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Empathic concern does not reduce partisan animosity: study

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Re: Empathic concern does not reduce partisan animosity: study

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When you have empathy, do you take the viewpoint of the master or the slave?

If you have empathy, you do both.

That doesn't mean that your sympathy for each is equal.

EDIT: But, the measure in the article doesn't measure empathy, which is independent of position, it measures whether one frames virtue through victimization narratives. People who agree with that wouldn't empathize with both, they'd empathize with the one that they see as the slave, which would all too often be driven by confirmation bias and tribal victimization narratives within their in group. I mean, we live in a country where the racial, religious, gender, and political ideology groups (alone and in every combination) having measurably disproportionate social, economic, and political power have equally strong or stronger (within their own communities) victimization narratives to the groups that are objectively disadvantaged. It's very easy for people to answer yes to the question that supposedly measures empathic concern when they in reality have no empathy for those outside of their identity group, which they perceive as disadvantaged and their only “empathic” concern is for those within their in-group that they identify as even greater victims of the same injustice that they themselves are victimized by.

Re: Empathic concern does not reduce partisan animosity: study

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When you have empathy, do you take the viewpoint of the master or the slave?

#nondualism

The master and slave are part of the same whole; one cannot exist without the other, and more generally, everyone is a flawed or incomplete person in one way or another. Having empathy for one without having empathy for the other is to misunderstand the universe.

Re: Empathic concern does not reduce partisan animosity: study

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I wonder if some of this could be due to people feeling that what people believe is not as relevant of what they do.

E.g. it seems like a lot of Republicans genuinely believe in family values and integrity, but whenever Trump violates them there is some excuse for why they don't stop supporting him.

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Maybe the scale at which you love your neighbor comes at the cost proportional to how much you hate your common rival.

To put it another way, humans might be incapable of emotional empathy outside of tribal brotherhood. That is, people they can identify with.

It'd make sense in a sort of selfish gene way. Emotional actions just seems wholly negative at the scale of our society. This may be the core of our division. We shouldn't be encouraging broad emotional responses to global events.

Re: Empathic concern does not reduce partisan animosity: study

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Could this not call into question the empathy scale used in the study?

Likely not. I would assume they use one of the big five traits which is called agreeableness, or something that's close enough it, and this result seems in keeping with how that trait would be described. People who are high in agreeableness are more likely to see the world in prey vs. predator terms - in my speculative opinion because this trait evolved as a maternal trait primarily to deal with the protection of infants - which takes its form in the political sphere as a very nasty type of behavior where if someone is found out to be the enemy everything's fair game to destroy them, since they're predators and you need to protect the prey on your team.
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