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Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Note that CNN International is a class better than CNN that you watch in the US. They carry less opinion and showbiz and more news and business, although go in-depth only in rare shows.

I used to switch between CNN and BBC in the 90s because of the great correspondent network they both had.

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Here's why: http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/ "Israel: The ugly truth", "A week of racism in Israel", "An education in inequality" Notice something out of proportion here? I know many people are keen to jump on the "Al Jazeera is great" bandwagon, but this level of intolerance is simply not appealing to Americans. Yes, there is anti-Islamic sentiment to a degree among a small portion of Americans, but it doesn't…

> In reality it's just an illusion that it's something objectively better. Why do you say that? They do seem to have a better and broader news coverage. > "Israel: The ugly truth" ... Notice something out of proportion here? No. I think it is a well written article. Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance?

> Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance?

You don't seem to have listened. It wasn't about that one article, it was about their coverage of the issue, which is skewed in one obvious direction. And by the way, the article is nothing more than a bunch of anecdotes misrepresented as an accurate representation of the issue (the article itself even acknowledges this but ignores the implications.) When you take instances of violence by individuals and try to assert it's a general pattern, that is hate mongering, plain and simple. Quote from the article:

'Bayu says: "It's obvious that [things] can go to another level. This is what happened in Germany and many other places."'

Look, it even comes with allusions to the comparison of Israel and the Nazis!

>Why do you say that? They do seem to have a better and broader news coverage.

"They do seem" as a claim on it's own has no persuasive power.

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are reading the title too literally. They just left off "on TV" because it's obvious from context.

I didn't think it was obvious from context, either (though I've been watching the English Al Jazeera stream).

It's obvious after reading the article.

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In reality it's just an illusion that it's something objectively better. Why do you say that? They do seem to have a better and broader news coverage. > "Israel: The ugly truth" ... Notice something out of proportion here? No. I think it is a well written article. Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance?

> Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance? You don't seem to have listened. It wasn't about that one article, it was about their coverage of the issue, which is skewed in one obvious direction. And by the way, the article is nothing more than a bunch of anecdotes misrepresented as an accurate representation of the issue (the article itself even ack…

Jacob, are you in Israel? Would you care to shed some perspective? For instance, are the races segregated? Are children taught to distrust other races? Are they taught all peoples are equal?

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Every time Al Jazeera is brought up, people claim that it is anti-semitic, racist, anti-US, etc.

But to that I say: so what? Do you think Americans are that stupid that they won't see antisemitism? Do you think we're little children who can't think for ourselves?

As the old adage goes, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". If Al Jazeera is indeed "the enemy", then all the more reason to make Al Jazeera widely available!

Plus: when Al Jazeera started, the staff was almost entirely made up of BBC MiddleEast service people. So while they worked for BBC, they were unbiased; but the moment they started working for AJ, they became biased and completely untrustworthy!!

IMHO, this opposition to Al Jazeera comes from the fact that they (AJ) don't tow the 'company line'. There's a carefully crafted story around which news is reported in the US ("US = good; Middle-Easterners = uneducated religious bigots; Israelis = poor victims who can't do no wrong; etc." ) ; unfortunately for AJ, they refuse to follow this line and hence piss off powerful people here.

And before someone starts putting words in my mouth: I support Israeli people, and want them to live secure, peaceful, happy lives in Israel. In other words: I support the Israeli people, but not necessarily the actions of their government.

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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post #56

Every time Al Jazeera is brought up, people claim that it is anti-semitic, racist, anti-US, etc. But to that I say: so what? Do you think Americans are that stupid that they won't see antisemitism? Do you think we're little children who can't think for ourselves? As the old adage goes, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". If Al Jazeera is indeed "the enemy", then all the more reason to make Al Jazeera…

As I mentioned below, I find it disingenuous that people often use the term 'anti-semitic' when they mean 'anti-Israel', as if any judgement on the actions of the state of Israel automatically implies hate of Jewish people.

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are you implying that anyone criticizing Israel should be automatically discarded on the basis of intolerance? You don't seem to have listened. It wasn't about that one article, it was about their coverage of the issue, which is skewed in one obvious direction. And by the way, the article is nothing more than a bunch of anecdotes misrepresented as an accurate representation of the issue (the article itself even ack…

Jacob, are you in Israel? Would you care to shed some perspective? For instance, are the races segregated? Are children taught to distrust other races? Are they taught all peoples are equal?

> For instance, are the races segregated?

No. I'm curious, is this a rhetorical question or are you genuinely ignorant of Israeli domestic policy?

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Every time Al Jazeera is brought up, people claim that it is anti-semitic, racist, anti-US, etc. But to that I say: so what? Do you think Americans are that stupid that they won't see antisemitism? Do you think we're little children who can't think for ourselves? As the old adage goes, "keep your friends close, but your enemies closer". If Al Jazeera is indeed "the enemy", then all the more reason to make Al Jazeera…

> when Al Jazeera started, the staff was almost entirely made up of BBC MiddleEast service people.

And many people believe that the BBC is biased when it comes to covering Israel.

For example: http://honestreporting.com/bbc-responds-to-flotilla-inquiry-...

Re: Why can't people in US watch Al Jazeera?

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Interesting. I have cox cable in DC, we get Al Jazeera, and it has been most useful. When the gulf oil spill was happening and we wanted to find out what was going on, I turned to CNN only to get 20 minutes on Katy Perry's freakin wardrobe controversy. Al Jazeera to the rescue.
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