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The cognitive costs of air pollution

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Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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Sorry for a pointless post, but this project gives me the CCC vibes. Y'all should attend one day, it's brilliant! In fact it's so rich in things and hacker exhibitions that you don't even have to go to the talks!

What is CCC? Searching brings up many things.

Given this is HN and OP mentions attending, they are likely referring to the Chaos Computer Congress, a German tech/hacker conference.

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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Sorry for a pointless post, but this project gives me the CCC vibes. Y'all should attend one day, it's brilliant! In fact it's so rich in things and hacker exhibitions that you don't even have to go to the talks!

What is CCC? Searching brings up many things.

The 36th Chaos Communication Congress organized by the Chaos Computer Club, a traditional event run by the community for the community. Takes place from Dec 26 to Dec 30 in Leipzig (Germany). Tickets are available on this Thursday (November 21th) from 21:00:00 CET till, judging from past experience, 21:00:01 CET.

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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> "Exposure to CO2 and VOCs at levels found in conventional office buildings was associated with lower cognitive scores than those associated with levels of these compounds found in a Green building." – Allen et al 2016. The effect seems to kick in at around 1,000 ppm of CO2. The last time this came up I bought a CO2 meter for my office. I was quite surprised how often it went over 1,000. Outside air runs around 450.…

I did the same thing at my office and brought it into a conference room with 7 other people. We watched the CO2 climb to about 900 and then it started going down. Seems the climate control system is also tracking CO2 and it started pushing fresh air in when the level got too high. A nice surprise that we have systems managing this - I don't know how common that is in offices though.

I think this is a common (maybe required?) thing in HVAC systems where they detect CO2 and turn on when it climbs too high.

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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What is CCC? Searching brings up many things.

Given this is HN and OP mentions attending, they are likely referring to the Chaos Computer Congress, a German tech/hacker conference.

For clarification: CCC is used for Chaos Computer Club, who organizes the C3, the Chaos Communication Congress. Confusion guaranteed ;) for more info visit https://events.ccc.de/

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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I see low CO2 spaces becoming the next big thing for the privileged classes as CO2 levels rise. Weworks of the future will be advertising this as a definite selling point. Mansions with scrubbers getting it down to 200ppm

Opening a window works fine. I recall reading once that the health of poorer people was better one or two hundred years ago because poorer people ate cheap food - i.e. vegetables - rather than a meat-heavy diet.

Opening a window only works up until ambient CO2, which will continue to rise. A scrubbed interior atmosphere is already a selling point during fire season in the Bay Area.

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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> "Exposure to CO2 and VOCs at levels found in conventional office buildings was associated with lower cognitive scores than those associated with levels of these compounds found in a Green building." – Allen et al 2016. The effect seems to kick in at around 1,000 ppm of CO2. The last time this came up I bought a CO2 meter for my office. I was quite surprised how often it went over 1,000. Outside air runs around 450.…

Reminded me of the videos by Kurtis Baute: "I sealed myself in a Jar".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoKvPkwP4mM

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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> "Exposure to CO2 and VOCs at levels found in conventional office buildings was associated with lower cognitive scores than those associated with levels of these compounds found in a Green building." – Allen et al 2016. The effect seems to kick in at around 1,000 ppm of CO2. The last time this came up I bought a CO2 meter for my office. I was quite surprised how often it went over 1,000. Outside air runs around 450.…

One of the big trends in green/sustainable building is creating relatively air tight buildings in order to cut down on heating and cooling costs (see: Passiv Haus, Passive House, Pretty Good House). In order to do that, though, mechanical ventilation is needed. As a result, Heat-Recovery Ventilation & Enthalpy-Recovery Ventilation residential units can be installed for only $2k-$4K. Seems like a worthwhile investment (for when it’s not convenient or possible to open a window).

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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Sydney is having a bad day :-( https://aqicn.org/city/sydney/

We would call 159 a clean air day in Beijing. Forest and bush fires suck. Even Seattle air can smell bad when the wind blows in smoke from a big forest fire up in BC.

Sydney radio loves comparing it to Beijing. Then reminding us that we've just got that for a day.

Re: The cognitive costs of air pollution

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> "Exposure to CO2 and VOCs at levels found in conventional office buildings was associated with lower cognitive scores than those associated with levels of these compounds found in a Green building." – Allen et al 2016. The effect seems to kick in at around 1,000 ppm of CO2. The last time this came up I bought a CO2 meter for my office. I was quite surprised how often it went over 1,000. Outside air runs around 450.…

Been meaning to do this; do you have a link or recommended model?[EDIT: I see you already responded with the model below - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001PDGFR8/ ]

I'm very sensitive to lack of oxygen in a room. Our office is old and some days they don't run the A/C if it's not hot enough outside, and I feel like I'm suffocating and my productivity suffers.

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