huh?
Surely the mighty Intel could just dump it on a FTP server, declare it unsupported and call it a day? I mean they're basically already there:
>All versions are provided as is.
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#142This is why projects like coreboot are very important. Open source doesn't depend on someone's marketing itch.
It depends on maintainers though. We now kick devices out of coreboot where we suspect that the code wouldn't even boot anymore and there's nobody able to prove otherwise. We'd certainly welcome them moving to coreboot. They might even gain a new feature or two, but there's work involved on their part (and the story usually ends at that point).
Still the kicked out code is out there somewhere.
As opposed to.
Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
#143This will lead to people downloading potentially infected drivers from unofficial sites.
For anyone on Windows stuck doing this, I've had decent luck with the Snappy Driver Installer. ( https://sdi-tool.org/ ) The project is open source, can store a complete collection of all drivers offline, and can detect and update drivers. Please do note that you should always take a system restore point, as I have had a few issues with graphics drivers installed with the tool in the past.
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Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
#144This is why projects like coreboot are very important. Open source doesn't depend on someone's marketing itch.
It certainly depends on the contributors having an alternative source of income.
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#145Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
They lost a ton of ground right around 2006 when Core2Duo became a thing and they couldn't keep up.
I remember the K8, Almost every gamer I knew had one. Everybody was rooting for AMD at the time. They were the king. Dual core, 64bit support, almost double the IPC of Intel, lower power than Intel, and more stable. The frequencies weren't as high. My 2.6Ghz Athlon 64 3700+ demolished many Intel CPU's. And then I remember when Core2Duo became a thing like you said. Completely ruined AMD in every benchmark. I believe…
K6 was monumental by AMD, for the price those suckers ran circles around the Pentiums of the time and were more stable at that.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is 15 years not long term enough support for you?
8* year. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge
Just 6 years from launch of the products.
Sandy Bridge is not the newest microarchitecture generation of the processors Intel made motherboards for. That's Haswell series (Q87, B85 chipset branding went with this)[1], launched in June of 2013. Boards like DQ87PG, DH87RL, DB85FL.[2] These also have the same notice of end of bios availability.[3]
1. https://wccftech.com/intel-stop-production-desktop-motherboa... 2. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?pro... 3. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28295?product=7090...
Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
#148I can't believe this. All these years I've been recommending Intel products because of their long term support. I know these boards are legacy, but does it really cost them that much to host the files for occasional downloaders? One would have thought they'd tread carefully after so many recent PR hits, but I guess not.
If they don't reverse this decision, I very much hope they keep hashes of the driver exe's on their site. If I need to update BIOS there's no way in hell I'm trusting a link from a random stranger on the internet.
Reminder: The drivers are digitally signed, in most cases.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I've been buying Intel for years but just today I installed some Intel software and it asked me to join their "Computing Improvement Program." Part of the program? Send the "categories of websites you visit" back to Intel, among other things. [1]. They're really trying my patience with the semi-constant stream of Speltdown-like issues. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21563871
They're worried that you visit HackerNews, AMD.com and Phoronix. Intel should focus on getting their house in order and produce better hardware rather than to spy on their users.
Non-option, half of Intel's business is spying on users. Who would they sell the backdoors for IME to otherwise?
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#150Why are they doing this?
Because supporting 15 year old cheap consumer products is a waste of energy.
Since this fabricated "15 year old" hardware claim is repeated for who knows what reason, I'm going to have to spam the debunking of it as well.
It's nowhere near to being true. Software is going to be gone for haswell generation,[1] boards originally released just 6 years ago[2].
1. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/28295?product=7090.... 2. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?pro...