Why doesn't apple make the touchbar out of keys? The keys could be flat on top and seamlessly adjacent to one another to make a "bar", for sliders and such. But pressable like regular keys to make great buttons (most common use-case). I feel like that is inventable.
MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown
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#92I don't get their dust-proofing membrane comment: > News flash: there's not even a dust-proofing membrane on these new switches. We're inclined to take this as a very good sign. (It means we can finally eat Doritos during teardowns again.) That sounds counter-intuitive. Can someone explain?
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple will never give you a modular, easy to repair system. It just isn't going to happen, time to move on.
They 100% won't if people don't complain. But people complain, so there's still a chance.
Realistically the chance is slim. It's likely an ingrained Apple culture thing going all the way back to when Steve didn't even want the case of the Apple II to be able to be opened.
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#94It‘s not a very professional device if you can‘t upgrade the storage and the memory. The Mac Pro will feature modular SSDs (and they aren‘t even super fast). I wonder if Apple will use something proprietary or standard M.2 NVMe modules. They probably can‘t offer PCIe 4.0 slots since they‘re using Intel which is trailing behind.
> It‘s not a very professional device if you can‘t upgrade the storage and the memory.
Well, if you use this professionally, grab the max memory and storage available. Done.
It's not like you could stuff 256GB of RAM in the future, chipsets have limitations.
As for storage, that's only the internal storage. It has fast ports for a reason.
Upgradability is good, but it is worth much more for non-professionals. This allows someone to buy a machine today for lighter tasks and then later on re-purpose it for heavier workloads should the need arise.
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#95I can't find any information on the SSD flash chips; does anyone have any info on if they're MLC or 3D Nand? That would impact the wear of the drives considerably.
Which ones last longer?
They were likely actually referring to MLC vs TLC vs QLC. All three types can be manufactured in the stacked "3D" form.
MLC stores 2 bits per cell, TLC store 3, and QLC stores 4. MLC is the fastest and most reliable form, while QLC is the cheapest.
The MacBook Pro likely uses TLC like the vast majority of current consumer machines. Apple's SSDs are typically among the fastest available, but I haven't been able to find anything about reliability.
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#96> Stacked atop its slightly-older sibling (the 15-inch 2019 model), the new MacBook Pro has some noticeably larger exhaust holes.
They look quite similar to the vents found in the Early 2015 Macbook Pro!
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#97Repairability 1/10
I don't know why you're being downvoted. Maybe for spoiling the end result? Haha. Having the lowest repairability possible should not be acceptable for such a high-end machine. Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 got 5/10 (23 October 2019) https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+3+(...
> Having the lowest repairability possible should not be acceptable for such a high-end machine.
Just wait until you see cell phones.
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#98Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard. Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster. Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.
I have no problem on the old butterfly but welcome the physical esc
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#99>The X-rays make it even angrier! Run away! Luckily our friends at Creative Electron are taking all the risk here—we'll resume disassembly after things calm down. Not sure what is the allusion to here, but anyone else noticed static discharge you get after airport xray scans your macbook?
I believe they're just saying that the angry owl face is more prominent in the X-ray image. The eyebrows are more pronounced.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Magic Keyboard design is not the 2012-2015 MBP keyboard design, it's the design from their line of external keyboards. iFixit's jokey intro is misleading in this regard.
This is correct. The Magic keyboard has been beloved for several years, and it is not a keyboard that has ever been in a laptop before.
To me it actually seems that the 16" keyboard is a brand new keyboard, that has never been in any laptop or external keyboard. But it's derived from the external Magic Keyboard and shares the marketing name.
It has 1mmb of key travel, which is less than the 1.25mm of the external Magic Keyboard. It's also less than the 1.35mm of the 2015 MBP. But it's much more than the 0.5mm travel of the Butterfly keyboard.
This is all to say that although the 16" MBP has a new scissor-based keyboard, it's not quite fair to say it's the same as the Magic Keyboard. And although it probably fixes all of the keyboard woes of the past couple years, I would still wait a few months and see.