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MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by ojkelly »

Tepix wrote: post #11

It‘s not a very professional device if you can‘t upgrade the storage and the memory. The Mac Pro will feature modular SSDs (and they aren‘t even super fast). I wonder if Apple will use something proprietary or standard M.2 NVMe modules. They probably can‘t offer PCIe 4.0 slots since they‘re using Intel which is trailing behind.

The MBP goes hard on the trade off of maximising what it can fit inside while being portable.

You could make the cpu, gpu, ram and ssd user replaceable. But then you need bigger connectors, meaning you fit less stuff in.

There’s barely any unused space inside.

If you want something you can replace parts on, get a Thinkpad.

As someone who carries a MBP every day, the focus on portability is something I appreciate. So for me, I’m happy to take that trade off.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by blacksmith_tb »

pwthornton wrote: post #14
Tepix wrote: post #11

It‘s not a very professional device if you can‘t upgrade the storage and the memory. The Mac Pro will feature modular SSDs (and they aren‘t even super fast). I wonder if Apple will use something proprietary or standard M.2 NVMe modules. They probably can‘t offer PCIe 4.0 slots since they‘re using Intel which is trailing behind.

This is an odd definition of professional. To me, what you can do with it and the kinds of jobs it enables is what makes a computer pro or not.

I think the distinction being made is that something for casual use (like a Chromebook, or an iPad) doesn't really carry with it the expectation that you will be repairing or upgrading components - if something fails, you replace the whole (relatively cheap) device. For a machine that has a pricetag in the thousands, not hundreds, of dollars/euro, that isn't a very appealing approach...

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by pvg »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #34

>The X-rays make it even angrier! Run away! Luckily our friends at Creative Electron are taking all the risk here—we'll resume disassembly after things calm down. Not sure what is the allusion to here, but anyone else noticed static discharge you get after airport xray scans your macbook?

That might have more to do with you, in your socks, walking on plastic while your metal-encased laptop goes through something that could be used as a part of a Van de Graaff generator.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by gnicholas »

bpye wrote: post #5
JohnTHaller wrote: post #2

Most important point: Apple fixed the keyboard by ditching the flawed keyboard used for the past 3 years and returning to the Magic Keyboard scissor switch design. Comparing the 'new' keyboard to the Magic Keyboard: "side by side, we're hard pressed to spot any differences. Scissor switches, keycaps... There's slightly less space surrounding these new keys, and pundits will celebrate those reconfigured arrow keys—but…

But it's riveted to the chassis - you cannot replace the keyboard still.

But you can remove and replace the individual keys though, which means if issues arise presumably you wouldn’t need to replace the keyboard wholesale.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by ergothus »

EpicEng wrote: post #32
bpye wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it's riveted to the chassis - you cannot replace the keyboard still.

Apple will never give you a modular, easy to repair system. It just isn't going to happen, time to move on.

While you make a solid point about likely behavior, I'm sure there are those that said Microsoft will never cooperate with Linux.

"Never" is a bold word, and it's worth highlighting things like a hard-to-replace/repair keyboard to keep on that tiny bit of pressure to change (how often have you been in a meeting where "customers aren't asking for this" came up as a justification to not make a change?).

Also, just to let people KNOW - when buying a laptop you may not be considering if the keyboard is easy to service. Plenty of developers on any given day are making their first foray into these sorts of decisions, and there's nothing wrong with pointing out that which is obvious if you've been following for a decade but not if you're new to it.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by lordnacho »

Basketb926 wrote: post #4

Repairability 1/10

Some people don't mind throwing a few grand every couple of years on a new machine. You see the same with the phones, they cost a fair bit but people just buy them anyway.

A little annoying that certain things aren't simple a socket that can be replaced though.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by mikepurvis »

dijit wrote: post #18
mikepurvis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also known as "better include the three years of Apple Care coverage in the cost of the computer."

Three? Isn't it 2? (which overlaps with the mandatory 1yr warranty period)

The maximum warranty period is 3 years, though obviously there are lots of ways to still hand yourself an expensive repair (spill soda on the keyboard, that kind of thing).

Now, to be fair, I was a first-gen MacBook owner, and suffered from the issue with the magnetic latch cracking the topcase plastic and the plastic itself getting stained. I'm pretty sure I had that topcase replaced at least four or five times over the course of the computer's life, several of them out of the Apple Care period. That was a while ago, but at least back then, Apple were good about taking care of people once they'd come around to acknowledging a flaw.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by alberth »

Call me crazy but I must be the only person who enjoys typing on the old butterfly keyboard.

Yes I was one of those people who originally thought the travel was too small but after using it for a couple hours I found the low travel was a huge relief to Carpal Tunnel and I also typed much faster.

Maybe I have the only keyboard that “works” but I love me some butterfly keyboards.

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