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MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by kgermino »

dijit wrote: post #18
mikepurvis wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also known as "better include the three years of Apple Care coverage in the cost of the computer."

Three? Isn't it 2? (which overlaps with the mandatory 1yr warranty period)

I think it varies by country. In the US it’s 2 years on top of the 1 year included warranty, so 3 total.

You mention a mandatory 1 year so I assume you’re non-US and I don’t know what it would be for you.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by mumblemumble »

rahuldottech wrote: post #10

So no upgradable RAM, no upgradable storage. If either stops functioning, you have to change the entire logic board (including the CPU and GPU? I'm not sure). Wow this is a crappy design. But expected, since this is Apple that we're talking about.

What's interesting about this perception is that PC vendors who do the same things don't catch flak. Presumably because there are still options for PC that are at least theoretically repairable and built to last.

I wonder what would happen in a hypothetical world where there were pro and non-Pro Apple laptops, but the only real difference between them were that the Pro laptops had replaceable parts, and were however much larger/heavier/pricier they need to be to make that happen, while the non-Pro ones are all soldered and riveted together.

My guess is that the ones that are soldered together vastly outsell the pro line because that's what most Apple consumers want. And then economies of scale kick in until everyone's just mad that Apple is charging $500 "tax" just to be able to replace the hard drive and upgrade the RAM.

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rahuldottech wrote: post #10

So no upgradable RAM, no upgradable storage. If either stops functioning, you have to change the entire logic board (including the CPU and GPU? I'm not sure). Wow this is a crappy design. But expected, since this is Apple that we're talking about.

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Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by robin_reala »

JBiserkov wrote: post #19
Basketb926 wrote: post #4

Repairability 1/10

I don't know why you're being downvoted. Maybe for spoiling the end result? Haha. Having the lowest repairability possible should not be acceptable for such a high-end machine. Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 got 5/10 (23 October 2019) https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+3+(...

Lowest score at ifixit is actually 0. Somewhat coincidentally, that’s the score the original Surface Laptop got: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+Tea...

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by htk »

JBiserkov wrote: post #19
Basketb926 wrote: post #4

Repairability 1/10

I don't know why you're being downvoted. Maybe for spoiling the end result? Haha. Having the lowest repairability possible should not be acceptable for such a high-end machine. Microsoft Surface Laptop 3 got 5/10 (23 October 2019) https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Microsoft+Surface+Laptop+3+(...

Why shouldn’t it be acceptable? I for one accept to trade repairability for less footprint/weight. And I also admire my ThinkPad T420 that I thoroughly hacked.

Let the market decide what it wants. There’s space for all kinds os laptops and gadgets.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by machello13 »

JohnTHaller wrote: post #2

Most important point: Apple fixed the keyboard by ditching the flawed keyboard used for the past 3 years and returning to the Magic Keyboard scissor switch design. Comparing the 'new' keyboard to the Magic Keyboard: "side by side, we're hard pressed to spot any differences. Scissor switches, keycaps... There's slightly less space surrounding these new keys, and pundits will celebrate those reconfigured arrow keys—but…

This is exactly what Apple said they did.

Re: MacBook Pro 16" 2019 Teardown

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Post by wmf »

Tepix wrote: post #11

It‘s not a very professional device if you can‘t upgrade the storage and the memory. The Mac Pro will feature modular SSDs (and they aren‘t even super fast). I wonder if Apple will use something proprietary or standard M.2 NVMe modules. They probably can‘t offer PCIe 4.0 slots since they‘re using Intel which is trailing behind.

The Mac Pro has similar proprietary, non-upgradable, non-replaceable modules to the iMac Pro.
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