Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

twitter.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

21–30 of 491 posts

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#21

Post by jokoon »

After watching The laundromat, I think it's big news.

Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth, and why they're trusted to do it. This can't be secure or safe. I'm curious about the diplomacy and the political implications of this.

What if their office get robbed? What if the island gets attacked? What if one of those shady bank defaults? What if one of the people who manage it suddenly die? I mean apparently there is a long list of why it's risky, and I don't understand how this is even legal at all. How do you wire all this money to such a small place, and how can they trust so few people to hide so much money? I have so many questions.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#22

Post by 52-6F-62 »

ipython wrote: post #15
imglorp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An exception is the Netflix movie, "The Laundromat", which deserves wider viewing. It starts off like quirky satire, and then it morphs into actual lampooning of two specific real lawyers by name. They sued to suppress the movie and then lost. A journalist writing about the papers was killed in a car bomb.

Exactly this - one wonders why anyone would rationally become a journalist. The pay is crap, the verbal attacks are constant ("fake news", etc), the competition is immense (publish NOW because it's already on Twitter, yet it needs to be 100% factually accurate, so don't forget to triple-check your sources), and oh by the way, if you report on anything of societal value (rooting out corruption, printing stories about…

Having worked closely with and been friends with journalists:

It's because they believe in the work, find it interesting compared to other lines of work, or were inspired by other writers. They don't get into it for the money. They leave the profession or advance in position for the money.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#23

Post by iudqnolq »

m0zg wrote: post #9
hurrdurr2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regrettably the media needs to publish what gets the most clicks; unfortunately what gets the most clicks these days is partisan stories that gets readers riled up. That Panama leak story was also quickly "forgotten" by the MSM.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

I found former prosecutor and current defense attorney Ken White's perspective on Epstein's death very interesting. Many of the arguments for a conspiracy are based in a misunderstanding of how awfully our justice system treats people all the time. Being on suicide watch and not being helped is normal.

> Ken "Popehat" White (previously) has expanded on his excellent Twitter thread about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide in jail, and just how (shamefully) normal it is for prisoners to die in custody due to indifference, overwork, malfeasance and sadism on the part of prison authorities.

> In the Atlantic, White tells the stories of 32 inmates who died (or nearly died) in US custody, under circumstances that are every bit as absurd and negligent as those surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death.

> The point isn't that it's inconceivable that Epstein died as the result of a conspiracy, but the conspiracy theories that say that it has to be a setup because it's so implausible that prison authorities would be so totally useless are thoroughly disconnected from reality.

https://boingboing.net/2019/08/13/malice-vs-incompetence.htm...

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#24

Post by darrenf »

jjeaff wrote: post #16
Miner49er wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

I'm hindsight, it's obvious that an interview like that should have been aired. But it makes total sense not to air something so inflammatory back then with corroborating evidence. It would have sounded pretty outlandish. A girl says she was made a sex slave by a guy named Epstein that didn't really have a public profile and she was forced to sleep with the prince of Wales. As a journalist, you need impeccible source…

> prince of Wales

Andrew is the Duke of York, not Prince of Wales - that's Charles.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#25

Post by 1000units »

iudqnolq wrote: post #23
m0zg wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

I found former prosecutor and current defense attorney Ken White's perspective on Epstein's death very interesting. Many of the arguments for a conspiracy are based in a misunderstanding of how awfully our justice system treats people all the time. Being on suicide watch and not being helped is normal . > Ken "Popehat" White (previously) has expanded on his excellent Twitter thread about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide in…

Epstein wasn't a normal prisoner. None of this is particularly relevant.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#26

Post by mikeyouse »

ipython wrote: post #15
imglorp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An exception is the Netflix movie, "The Laundromat", which deserves wider viewing. It starts off like quirky satire, and then it morphs into actual lampooning of two specific real lawyers by name. They sued to suppress the movie and then lost. A journalist writing about the papers was killed in a car bomb.

Exactly this - one wonders why anyone would rationally become a journalist. The pay is crap, the verbal attacks are constant ("fake news", etc), the competition is immense (publish NOW because it's already on Twitter, yet it needs to be 100% factually accurate, so don't forget to triple-check your sources), and oh by the way, if you report on anything of societal value (rooting out corruption, printing stories about…

> and oh by the way, if you report on anything of societal value (rooting out corruption, printing stories about drug cartels), you may get yourself killed.

Don't forget sued, which prevents many independent journalists from being as aggressive as they should be with the plutocratic class and large corporations in countries where murdering journalists is still verboten. If you don't have the legal resources (and insurance) of a major news organization behind you, good luck writing the type of stories that cause discomfort to the powerful.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#27

Post by iudqnolq »

1000units wrote: post #25
iudqnolq wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found former prosecutor and current defense attorney Ken White's perspective on Epstein's death very interesting. Many of the arguments for a conspiracy are based in a misunderstanding of how awfully our justice system treats people all the time. Being on suicide watch and not being helped is normal . > Ken "Popehat" White (previously) has expanded on his excellent Twitter thread about Jeffrey Epstein's suicide in…

Epstein wasn't a normal prisoner. None of this is particularly relevant.

Ken White addresses this. Even with high profile prisoners, guards face minimal accountability in the US prison system.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#28

Post by jbob2000 »

jokoon wrote: post #21

After watching The laundromat, I think it's big news. Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth, and why they're trusted to do it. This can't be secure or safe. I'm curious about the diplomacy and the political implications of this. What if their office get robbed? What if the island gets attacked? What if one of those shady ban…

The money isn't being kept there for safety, it's being kept there for anonymity and easy access. These countries don't ask any questions when you show up and ask to withdraw a million dollars. Maybe you're withdrawing that money to buy a yacht, maybe you're withdrawing it to buy drugs, maybe you're withdrawing it to pay for a seat on Epstein Air. Banks in developed countries ask questions, these banks in these countries ask 0 questions.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#29

Post by Aperocky »

jokoon wrote: post #21

After watching The laundromat, I think it's big news. Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth, and why they're trusted to do it. This can't be secure or safe. I'm curious about the diplomacy and the political implications of this. What if their office get robbed? What if the island gets attacked? What if one of those shady ban…

You'd think it's the small island and countries managing those bank, but it's not. The banks are from the rich and for the rich, the country is just a ruse.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#30

Post by [deleted] »

jokoon wrote: post #21

After watching The laundromat, I think it's big news. Although I will always be curious why countries are letting those small, insignificant islands and countries manage all this wealth, and why they're trusted to do it. This can't be secure or safe. I'm curious about the diplomacy and the political implications of this. What if their office get robbed? What if the island gets attacked? What if one of those shady ban…

[deleted]
Post reply on HN