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Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

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Post by Miner49er »

m0zg wrote: post #9
hurrdurr2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regrettably the media needs to publish what gets the most clicks; unfortunately what gets the most clicks these days is partisan stories that gets readers riled up. That Panama leak story was also quickly "forgotten" by the MSM.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

Miner49er wrote: post #11
m0zg wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

I think because you easily provided the proof they were wrong, as evidenced by an article published by the media about how it's not being addressed publicly to the public's satisfaction.

It's too common to treat the media as a homogeneous entity rather than a fractured and variable group.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

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Post by ipython »

imglorp wrote: post #10
hurrdurr2 wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regrettably the media needs to publish what gets the most clicks; unfortunately what gets the most clicks these days is partisan stories that gets readers riled up. That Panama leak story was also quickly "forgotten" by the MSM.

An exception is the Netflix movie, "The Laundromat", which deserves wider viewing. It starts off like quirky satire, and then it morphs into actual lampooning of two specific real lawyers by name. They sued to suppress the movie and then lost. A journalist writing about the papers was killed in a car bomb.

Exactly this - one wonders why anyone would rationally become a journalist. The pay is crap, the verbal attacks are constant ("fake news", etc), the competition is immense (publish NOW because it's already on Twitter, yet it needs to be 100% factually accurate, so don't forget to triple-check your sources), and oh by the way, if you report on anything of societal value (rooting out corruption, printing stories about drug cartels), you may get yourself killed.

Or I could sit quietly, write some code to enable more ad views on tech platform du jour, get paid bank, and complain about journalism on Hacker News with my free time between deploys. Guess which one I would choose?

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#16

Post by jjeaff »

Miner49er wrote: post #11
m0zg wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

I'm hindsight, it's obvious that an interview like that should have been aired. But it makes total sense not to air something so inflammatory back then with corroborating evidence. It would have sounded pretty outlandish. A girl says she was made a sex slave by a guy named Epstein that didn't really have a public profile and she was forced to sleep with the prince of Wales.

As a journalist, you need impeccible sources and evidence to back your story up before you publish something like that.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#17

Post by paulddraper »

ipython wrote: post #15
imglorp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An exception is the Netflix movie, "The Laundromat", which deserves wider viewing. It starts off like quirky satire, and then it morphs into actual lampooning of two specific real lawyers by name. They sued to suppress the movie and then lost. A journalist writing about the papers was killed in a car bomb.

Exactly this - one wonders why anyone would rationally become a journalist. The pay is crap, the verbal attacks are constant ("fake news", etc), the competition is immense (publish NOW because it's already on Twitter, yet it needs to be 100% factually accurate, so don't forget to triple-check your sources), and oh by the way, if you report on anything of societal value (rooting out corruption, printing stories about…

One may wonder the same about many professions like primary/secondary teaching.

The answer is that lots of humans like that sort of work.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#18

Post by glofish »

hurrdurr2 wrote: post #7
m0zg wrote: post #5

This is going to be swept under the rug faster than Epstein, assuming it even surfaces in the mainstream press at all. Lots of rich people run their stuff through the Cayman Islands, probably more than through Panama. So far, as far as I can tell, no mention in the US. The entire front pages of major national newspapers (WaPo and NYTimes) are dedicated to their single-minded mission of telling everyone that orange ma…

Regrettably the media needs to publish what gets the most clicks; unfortunately what gets the most clicks these days is partisan stories that gets readers riled up. That Panama leak story was also quickly "forgotten" by the MSM.

Are you blaming the media for getting people what they want?

As long as people demand the click-bait only the ones that provide such content will survive. Let's thank our luck that it is not Infowars style clickbait, so some resemblance of sanity still remains.

FWIW the Panama papers have had a noticeable impact, especially where it matters most, clawing money back

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#19

Post by m0zg »

jjeaff wrote: post #16
Miner49er wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

I'm hindsight, it's obvious that an interview like that should have been aired. But it makes total sense not to air something so inflammatory back then with corroborating evidence. It would have sounded pretty outlandish. A girl says she was made a sex slave by a guy named Epstein that didn't really have a public profile and she was forced to sleep with the prince of Wales. As a journalist, you need impeccible source…

>> you need impeccible sources

No problem: just hire Fusion GPS to write a "dossier". A source so "impeccible" that you can write about it for years in spite of there being not a shred of truth in it.

Re: Hacker Publishes 2TB of Data from Cayman National Bank

#20

Post by aphextim »

Miner49er wrote: post #11
m0zg wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure the journalists would easily manage to make Panama very interesting if their owners didn't tell them to knock it off. Same as with Epstein. Scandal of the century, not discussed at all within 2 weeks, no follow up or investigative journalism of any kind.

Not sure why you're being downvoted. "Epstein didn't kill himself" is still a meme. That proves there's a market for the Epstein news, IMO. The public absolutely cares. Plus, there's evidence it's being swept under the rug: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/leaked-fo...

I enjoy the "Epstein didn't kill himself" meme as it encompasses both ideas.

Popular, he was murdered to be silenced from his handlers.

Unpopular, he is still alive and living somewhere in secret.

However if the meme was changed a little bit, even to "Who killed Epstein?" that would omit the 2nd more unpopular theory altogether.

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