Is this due to a "management" style leadership pushed on companies typically by Private Equity? I am beginning to see PE as an agent of eroding quality in after sales support and many other areas.
Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
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#112I will admit that I do not understand that move; especially so if it is a cost cutting measure. Then again I remember arguing with a VP that storage is cheap and email size limits are draconian enough already. She was not pleased. Maybe it is really just about the budget.
Its planed obsolesce. Intel wants you to buy new hardware.
.. from its competitors, apparently.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I've been buying Intel for years but just today I installed some Intel software and it asked me to join their "Computing Improvement Program." Part of the program? Send the "categories of websites you visit" back to Intel, among other things. [1]. They're really trying my patience with the semi-constant stream of Speltdown-like issues. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21563871
They're worried that you visit HackerNews, AMD.com and Phoronix. Intel should focus on getting their house in order and produce better hardware rather than to spy on their users.
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
what industries would these be?
Most of them in my experience. Many industrial machines have lifespans well beyond 15years. Big companies buy the state of the art and when they decide to replace the old machines they resell them to smaller companies who can't afford to buy the newest model. I know many people on HN work in web technologies where last year's technology is already obsolete but I've worked in small hardware companies that still used i…
Exactly when I went to college (Mechanical Engineering) some of the machine tools we had in the labs where WW2 vintage
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#115Is this due to a "management" style leadership pushed on companies typically by Private Equity? I am beginning to see PE as an agent of eroding quality in after sales support and many other areas.
Normal Short termism for listed companies not just PE
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#116I can't believe this. All these years I've been recommending Intel products because of their long term support. I know these boards are legacy, but does it really cost them that much to host the files for occasional downloaders? One would have thought they'd tread carefully after so many recent PR hits, but I guess not.
Yeah, I've been buying Intel for years but just today I installed some Intel software and it asked me to join their "Computing Improvement Program." Part of the program? Send the "categories of websites you visit" back to Intel, among other things. [1]. They're really trying my patience with the semi-constant stream of Speltdown-like issues. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21563871
What is this "speltdown like issues"? I googled but found nothing.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, I've been buying Intel for years but just today I installed some Intel software and it asked me to join their "Computing Improvement Program." Part of the program? Send the "categories of websites you visit" back to Intel, among other things. [1]. They're really trying my patience with the semi-constant stream of Speltdown-like issues. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21563871
What is this "speltdown like issues"? I googled but found nothing.
Probably Meltdown and Spectre, but I've never seen the two of them abbreviated in this particular way.
Re: Intel desktop board BIOS update end-of-life
#118I can't believe this. All these years I've been recommending Intel products because of their long term support. I know these boards are legacy, but does it really cost them that much to host the files for occasional downloaders? One would have thought they'd tread carefully after so many recent PR hits, but I guess not.
I've built three systems with Intel desktop boards, and only one of them survived longer than three years; the other two succumbed to Bad Capacitor Syndrome. I wonder if the caps were counterfeits, since they were (at least ostensibly) from respected Japanese manufacturers. The survivor is a D945GCLF2 (Mini-ITX Atom board) that runs my Asterisk installation. Even it's a bit wonky, though; kernels newer than 2.6 have…
It might be worth looking at some of the pcie to pci risers out there, you can find them for about $40-50, and you can likely get much better power efficiency on modern CPUs and platforms. That'd give you more time on a UPS along with better power bills (though likely not enough to recoup costs alone)
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#119Now if I was an AMD exec I'd suddenly announce that "all versions of all our drivers for all hardware on all platforms will be available forever".
AMD never really made boards. That was part of their problem for a long time. They didn’t even make or support chipsets. It was just VIA and other third party stuff that was so riddled with bugs it was hard to recommend for anything other than enthusiast gaming.
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#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't hold your breath. AMD has been terrible at marketing themselves against Intel for nearly 2 decades.
I feel like there was a period of time around 2000 when they had some edge, at least with gamers. Soon after that they disappeared for a while and only now i'm hearing about them again.
Yep. The original Athlon and Opteron was the only decent period of time when it seemed like they had a decent edge. Really because Intel so horribly botched P4. So much so they buried the Pentium name they spent billions building up.