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The Efficiency-Destroying Magic of Tidying Up
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#12"When a God-level AI takes over in a science fiction book, it often remakes the world in its image: full of straight lines, smooth acceleration rates, and lots of chrome (AIs love that stuff). But as we start using algorithms to design things, we get results that look a lot more chaotic than that..." It would be interesting to see a movie where an AI takes over and turns reality in to a Rube Goldberg machine.
Huge corporations and governments are kind of like hybrid silicon/meat AIs and that's exactly what they've done. I think this is the most likely outcome.
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#13> London's tube map only uses 45° angles to aid its human readers. Now can you see the humanness in mainboard design?
What was that russian electronic board design software where nothing is vertically/horizontally aligned, no trace is straight?
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#14"When a God-level AI takes over in a science fiction book, it often remakes the world in its image: full of straight lines, smooth acceleration rates, and lots of chrome (AIs love that stuff). But as we start using algorithms to design things, we get results that look a lot more chaotic than that..." It would be interesting to see a movie where an AI takes over and turns reality in to a Rube Goldberg machine.
Huge corporations and governments are kind of like hybrid silicon/meat AIs and that's exactly what they've done. I think this is the most likely outcome.
Nice!
That means we already have AGI, right? The corporation.
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#15"When a God-level AI takes over in a science fiction book, it often remakes the world in its image: full of straight lines, smooth acceleration rates, and lots of chrome (AIs love that stuff). But as we start using algorithms to design things, we get results that look a lot more chaotic than that..." It would be interesting to see a movie where an AI takes over and turns reality in to a Rube Goldberg machine.
Huge corporations and governments are kind of like hybrid silicon/meat AIs and that's exactly what they've done. I think this is the most likely outcome.
No, corporations and governments flatten and simplify everything until they can understand it. The next step, once we have powerful enough systems, is to embrace the chaos and use it.
E.g. older houses were hand-built, but nowadays houses are built with straight walls and standardised heights for everything so that mass-produced furniture can fit in them. But if in the future our furniture is made on-demand by AIs, then there's no reason to do it that way; you can have a non-standard height for your kitchen counter (for example) and if/when your dishwasher breaks, the AI system will fabricate you a new non-standard dishwasher to go under it.
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#16this reminds me of that time blowhard Richard Dawkins disected an animal (can't remember which) and proceeded to bang on about how stupid the vagus nerve is, wandering all over the place as it does for no apparent reason. People used to say the same of the appendix and adenoids; that they're pointless vestiges, the blindness of evolution, contingent structures. Dawkins said obviously the nerve should simply connect directly instead of following its ancient evolutionary program up and down and around the organs.
A classic case of Chesterton’s Fence
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#17"When a God-level AI takes over in a science fiction book, it often remakes the world in its image: full of straight lines, smooth acceleration rates, and lots of chrome (AIs love that stuff). But as we start using algorithms to design things, we get results that look a lot more chaotic than that..." It would be interesting to see a movie where an AI takes over and turns reality in to a Rube Goldberg machine.
I don't think AI would turn reality into a Rube Goldberg machine, but rather that it would create so much complexity that we can't see through it.
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#18Hmm, I thought that Amazon was famous for how they standardized their cross-company software? (With AWS as a side effect.) Or is this not the case anymore?
IIRC, they only standardized the interfaces, not the implementations. You could write your team's code any which way you wanted, but you had to expose a consistent REST api in front of it all and publish its specification to the rest of the company.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Huge corporations and governments are kind of like hybrid silicon/meat AIs and that's exactly what they've done. I think this is the most likely outcome.
No, corporations and governments flatten and simplify everything until they can understand it. The next step, once we have powerful enough systems, is to embrace the chaos and use it. E.g. older houses were hand-built, but nowadays houses are built with straight walls and standardised heights for everything so that mass-produced furniture can fit in them. But if in the future our furniture is made on-demand by AIs, t…
You might like James C. Scott's Seeing Like a State, if you haven't already read it.
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#20"When a God-level AI takes over in a science fiction book, it often remakes the world in its image: full of straight lines, smooth acceleration rates, and lots of chrome (AIs love that stuff). But as we start using algorithms to design things, we get results that look a lot more chaotic than that..." It would be interesting to see a movie where an AI takes over and turns reality in to a Rube Goldberg machine.
I don't think AI would turn reality into a Rube Goldberg machine, but rather that it would create so much complexity that we can't see through it.
The Matrix.
I always thought it would be interesting to have a prequel about the first person to escape. Office Space meets X Files, and the order of the complexity slowly becomes more apparent, until the movie turns into Playtime.