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This is the rationalisation of a legal kludge that is only necessary to assuage consciences that the state has not become "immoral". The facts on the ground are that, dissuasion or not, these economies will never go away ("oldest profession", after all). Full legalisation would allow for complete oversight of such murky sectors, which would ensure everyone's safety better than the current arrangements, at all levels.…

I agree that prostitution should be legalised and regulated to make it safer for everybody involved (because I too don't think it'll ever go away). Cannabis? Probably — I don't know that it's that much worse than tobacco. Full-on legalisation is not universally desirable, though — there's always heroine, cocaine, crack, meth... — and the asymmetric legality thing is still a very useful tool in those circumstances.

What's needed is evidence based approach, where wt draw a line at alcohol and all drugs less lethal/ addictive/ harmful (take your pick) are legalised.

There are some truly horrible substances, but with current approach heroin and weed are sold by the same guy.

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Which further highlights how many "problems" that tech people in the US have tried to solve (transit->uber, various health care start-ups, etc) are essentially due to the failure of the US state to function properly or even focus on the right thing.

Another way to put that is that tech people, being tech people, try to solve fundamentally political or social problems by throwing technology at them. And so far it pretty much never works out, unsurprisingly, since it turns out not all problems can be solved with a website.

Other way of putting it: tech people do their job.

I mean, if an engineer is assigned to a project, what else is he/she meant to do?

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Don’t know if it’s only in Germany but banks here don’t need to give you any reason to close your account. There are some stories of how every time they tweak N26 Risk ML there’s a wave of termination letters to customers that didn’t do anything wrong. A bunch of friends got affected by this a while a go, they didn’t do anything wrong and the bank refused to give any reason at all for the termination.

Does closing your account also mean you lose your money or they give it to you somehow?

They must give it to you.

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This is relevant to the argument that Paypal is not merely responding to financial risks, but using its platform to impose its worldview. Guns are highly regulated in the US. Someone violating those regulations in the context on an online business is usually guilty of a felony, and has a high probability of being prosecuted. To my knowledge, guns don't have a high rate of chargebacks, as they involve a papertrail wit…

At a gun show, two individuals could use PayPal to conduct a sale (if it was allowed on their platform), without any background check or government-issued ID.

They could, or they could list guns for sale on a classifieds site like Armslist and meet in private. People could use Paypal for such a transaction regardless of the terms of use, though trying to use the dispute resolution might result in both parties losing their accounts.

In any case, it's not a meaningful financial risk for Paypal. It might be a risk of bad press, but "criminal pays for gun with Paypal and uses it to commit a murder" probably isn't actually going to result in many people not using Paypal.

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I've been with my bank for 15+ years. One time I sent a payment of several hundred £s to a friend who's paid my share of a holiday when booking. In the description I put "fun times". I had a call from my bank asking me to explain the payment the next day. I've never been called before nor since that. It certainly feels like they're a bit touchy about certain references.

> In the description I put "fun times". I recently started using Venmo to pay a few people and the things I have wrote are awful. Recent examples include: "Human organ trafficking" "Lunch and murder for hire", "sack of shrunken heads" and so on. Let them call me.

I'm an American and so I totally get what you're saying and in principle you're absolutely right, but that's not the way I roll anymore.

I want to be as under the radar as I can be when it comes to stuff like this. My attitude is that the bank already knows too much about me, why give them more rope?

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Keep in mind the United States only fails so spectacularly at socialized system implementation because the power of the socialized service to negotiate is defanged to prop up the excesses of the private sector. Let the government flex its muscles without artificial constraint, and watch how fast the market has to rein itself in to remain competitive. The reason Medicare is loathed, is because Medicare has a mandate t…

Medicare is loathed? That's news to me.

Even Vox has said so. Anecdotal, but lot of people in the USA across the political spectrum seem to agree if you search around in the news: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/7/29/8910387/me...

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Generally the advice in Germany is not to use "funny" descriptions, but not because the bank might have no sense of humor but because the tax agency might take it literally. If your friend sends you money "for sexual favors", that might be considered taxable income and you'll find yourself having some explaining to do.

Not just tax authorities, but (more importantly) police ones. The laws around things like sex work or drug consumptions, in most countries, are full of grey areas and willfully-contradictory positions (e.g. one can buy but the other can't sell, etc). So as soon as a transaction is categorised as part of a "problematic" economy, then police can get involved. If your bank lets through "hooker money" unchallenged, the p…

The thing is that if it was really a payment for an illegal activity, who actually would write the truth in the description?

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>that just means their confirmations are 1/10th as reliable as Bitcoin's confirmations. This argument is tired. There is no rule that dictates that the same amount of work or stake is equal to the same amount of security across different coins. I trust ETH transactions just as much as I trust BTC, and there are others that I trust equally also. And now that BTC costs more in fees, their solution is to move to less se…

I would like to point out that the lighting network isn't "less secure", it's cryptographicly sound. It is less secure in the sense that you need to keep your lighting node online all the time, but this can be solved with other relegated solutions.

This is plain wrong. Lightening is not on chain except at entry and exit points. By nature this means that anything that happens between is less secure because it has not be settled publicly. Until something has been printed into the blockchain with enough proof of work behind it to be considered immutable, it is simply not in the same domain of security. Comparing these two states is a joke because one of these states is ignoring the very reason why bitcoin was invented (rapid public immutable settlement). Until that settlement has occurred, you must do the very thing that bitcoin was created to remove... trust third parties.

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Obama was the direct opposite of fantastically anti government and this deplatforming peaked under him. This isn’t about anti government sentiment, it’s about pro abuse of government sentiment to use the force of law to push your morality on others. At least unless you weirdly classify Obama as anti government. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point

Read up on corporatism. It describes the overlap of moderate Democratic and moderate Republican ideology pretty well. It is a shortening of “corporate fascism”, and is the idea that the government exists to protect the economy, which is best done by strengthening existing power structures that power the current economic system. Therefore the government should defer to corporations whenever possible.

It's also showing up in presidential campaign. Biden is known corporate Democrat. He is still leading in the polls, but losing it. The recent Ukraine revelations also didn't help and looks like Warren is taking over. Out of nowhere 3 new "moderate" candidates appeared, and also Harris got a large donation.

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A company cannot really have a religious believe.

This is just plain wrong. Look at all the religion-run hospitals in America, and how they use religious values to affect their patient care and which services they do and don't allow. This has been affirmed by the court system even. I personally don't like it one bit; people should be getting medical services based on the latest medical science, not based on some millennia-old book of fables, but unfortunately that's…

You are talking about the religious beliefs of people running the company.
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