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Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

#161

Microsoft isn't selling your PC usage data to advertisers. If you doubt me, go ahead and show me how you can buy this data. I'll gladly give you my next month's salary if you can.

This implies it's OK for Microsoft to have the data in the first place. I don't trust them any more than Google.

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> it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. > Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

Bad analogy. The music on a CD doesn't change after you purchase it. Windows is in constant evolution.

It's not a bad analogy because the point (it's not yours) doesn't depend on the idea of whether the data changes or not. Regardless of if the data evolves or not, it's still not yours to control (to a complete extent).

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I don't get this kind of comment. I bought a surface pro 2 years ago. I had to turn off the promoted apps and uninstall a few commercial games. But since then, no commercial ever appeared on my start screen. Not saying it's good to bundle commercial app. But its not hell either, like Google pushing you to their services every time you use their search engine or YouTube... And I think it's really bad practice to use s…

I agree. I wonder if Apple put a little tile up to show the new Mac Pro, or of Red Hat put a little widget up to show Red Hat cloud suite would we hear the same complaints. It's just a little tile that shows a Microsoft product. I run Windows 10 out-of-the-box on all my machines. I don't run any special "cracks" to remove features, but I may have turned off a few things from Control Panel; I don't remember. It's a ve…

Candy Crush is published by King (which is apparently owned by Activision now?), and has always gave an impression of being slightly sleazy.

I don't mind the OneDrive and Office ads as much (though I still turn them off).

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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To solve this, they have an upgrade you can get called "Windows 10 Pro for Workstations". Costs a little over $300. Quoting the blog post on windows.com: "You will see for Windows 10 Pro for Workstations productivity and enterprise focused applications in place of consumer applications and games. This was one of the top feedback shared with us by our partners and users and we're delivering this in our next update" La…

I wonder what engineers working on vscode and wsl feel when they run into people working on OS monetization in the company restaurant... What do you need to say in your interview to be assigned to the latter team?

There’s a company restaurant?

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While I'm glad these efforts exist, it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. In my experience, it's a losing battle. Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. The occasional nods towards the technical crowd, for example WSL & VSCode are distracting us from the very large elephant in the room.

> it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. > Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

> Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system.

Linux is not your operating system either. You are not the owner of Linux. Linux has a permissive open source license that don't give you ownership. If you were the owner you could change its license.

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> it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. > Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

> Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. Linux is not your operating system either. You are not the owner of Linux. Linux has a permissive open source license that don't give you ownership. If you were the owner you could change its license.

I'm saying Linux is "free and open," you can clearly see that in my comment.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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While I'm glad these efforts exist, it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. In my experience, it's a losing battle. Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. The occasional nods towards the technical crowd, for example WSL & VSCode are distracting us from the very large elephant in the room.

> it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. > Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

>This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

I really can't understand how people are ok with this. Now just with windows, but in general these days. Why are people ok with having things they don't really own after spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on them. If I buy a computer, it's my computer, I don't give a fuck what operating system is on it, what fine print amd or Intel throw in saying their management systems are their property, I don't care. I'll do whatever I want with my computer and if Microsoft or any other company has a problem with it they can come sue me for all I care.

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> it's wrong to have to fight my operating system in this way. Your operating system? This isn't Linux, this isn't a free and open system. > Microsoft seem intent on having full control of your system, and they are in a position to take that control as and when they like. This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system.

>This isn't your system any more than buying a CD makes the music yours. You're renting their system. I really can't understand how people are ok with this. Now just with windows, but in general these days. Why are people ok with having things they don't really own after spending hundreds if not thousands of dollars on them. If I buy a computer, it's my computer, I don't give a fuck what operating system is on it, wh…

>I'll do whatever I want with my computer

You pretty much can, I don't understand why you're upset. Windows on the other hand is not your property.

Your laptop in this case is the CD, you own that. Windows is the music that you're renting.

Re: Microsoft Advertisement Inc.

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The author did not even mention how Windows 10 pushes the "Your Phone" app. Which gives Microsoft full access to your android phone and your behavior and data on your mobile device. Unlike apple which provides this feature with end to end encryption.
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