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> we've received a low 8 figure verbal offer over the phone today. Try to get something on paper. > they could fire us on day #2 and we'd have only the token money we got up front to show for it. That's something you should take care of contractually. > the offer is low by about 20% from what would make us "happy" to sell for. 20% is not a whole lot to be off for an opening offer, but keep in mind that if you go for…

A lawyer isn't the answer for everything. Get an investment banker who has M&A experience, or alternately management consultant who can argue with the acquirer about the valuation.

I've done a deal like this. You need a team. First you need a consultant who specialises in this sort of transaction. Interview a bunch of them and be willing to pay a few percent of the proceeds as a success fee.

You will also need a lawyer, a specialist tax accountant, personal accountant, etc.

Right now you are at the non-binding offer stage. This is when you shape the deal and negotiate the overall price. Your aim is to not only maximise the sale price but also manage risk by maximising up front cash and minimising proceeds which are dependent on future performance (earn-out). Others have commented on this stage. My advice is to create a formal process - step back and spend a couple of months creating an 'information memorandum' and get it to a bunch of prospective buyers. The only way to get the best deal is to get multiple offers.

Now here is the most important thing I have to say. Negotiating the deal is the easy bit. I repeat - the easy bit. You have to do due diligence and negotiate the long-form contracts. If you get this wrong, the deal rapidly become much less attractive. This is where both your sale consultant and lawyer are critical, but you'll have plenty of work to do too!

Start thinking about due diligence right now. Will your business stand microscopic scrutiny? Do you meet all accounting standards, relevant business regulations, etc. The better the deal you negotiate, the harder you'll be pressed in due diligence. And remember you need to be 100% truthful because the contracts will contain clauses that you won't want invoked if you provide any incorrect information.

The only really important advice you should take from an online forum is to hire great consultants now. Only deal with genuine experts who have real experience with similar transactions. Be prepared to pay high fees, the right people will be worth it!

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Perhaps this is superfluous in light of all good advice youlve already received, but: these guys are not doing you a favor! You owe them nothing. There is no reason whatsoever to cut them any slack. You have something they want and you can make them bleed to get it. Honestly, these are the same tactics as employed by Moroccan carpet salesmen.

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#113
The vesting over 4 years is long by industry standards; understandable though if the buyer really wants to keep the founders on board. If you lose key people after acquisition, you might as well not have bought the company. I suspect the buyer got burnt on this in the past, and now compensates with very long vesting periods.

Creating an impression that "the first offer is the final offer" can safely be assumed to be negotiation tactics. This is what they are paid for; the people you're talking to do this sort of negotiation all the time. You are fencing with someone that has practiced this for years, and they have much less to lose than you. Do not assume malice, just assume that their job is to get a good deal for their employer.

Be frank: Tell them what you think the value of the company actually is. An M&A deal is like getting married: If you don't feel that it's the happiest day of your life when you sign your company over, you probably shouldn't do it. A little bit of cold feet is to be expected, but generally you should -not- enter a deal where you have a bitter taste in your mouth. That would do neither you (nor the potential buyer) any good.

Get yourself advisors (experienced ones, preferably); but be careful: Keep their incentive structure in mind. Some have a lot less to lose than you (e.g. if the deal breaks apart, they lose a couple of hours of work), but can often gain much more from risk-taking (as they usually want a percentage of the proceeds).

Your impression that a lot of advisors seem like they have something to sell to you is correct, because they do. Finding one that you deem trustworthy is important; personal connections are usually more helpful than shopping around.

It is not unheard of to not get the LOI before the basic terms are agreed upon. The buyer wants to avoid giving you something in writing that you could use to shop around.

Good luck !

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This looks like classical negotiation tactics from people knowing how to play hardball. They try to take control of the situation by setting limits to the offer. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ACCEPT THESE LIMITS !!! THIS IS A CLASSICAL NEGOTIATION TRAP NEWBIES FALL INTO !!! THEY WILL TRY TO MAKE YOU BELIEVE THAT SURRENDERING TO ANY OF YOUR COUNTER REQUESTS IS A VALUABLE CONCESSION. IT IS NOT. THEY HAVE SET THE OFFER FAR TOO LOW…

Agreed on quite a few of these points.

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The vesting over 4 years is long by industry standards; understandable though if the buyer really wants to keep the founders on board. If you lose key people after acquisition, you might as well not have bought the company. I suspect the buyer got burnt on this in the past, and now compensates with very long vesting periods. Creating an impression that "the first offer is the final offer" can safely be assumed to be…

Btw, before I forget:

- Counteroffer. Seriously. - If you're profitable and can keep on going, make this -very- transparent to the people approaching you. - "No deal is better than a bad deal" is very true. Make sure the deal makes you happy. - Having an experienced negotiator along is going to make this a lot less nerve-wrecking. Try finding one, somehow.

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> We're about 5 years old and are highly profitable and have been for a while.

If highly profitable means you all earn enough money to drive the car you want, live in a comfortable house and take your family to holidays once in a while, you are on the right path and continue to walk it. Why should you bother with additional risks if you have job you like and it earns you enough?

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We went through a similar, albeit much smaller, acquisition process recently. However the general principles still apply:

1) If they are genuine bidders, then there will be room for negotiation. How much of course depends on a) how much they want to buy and b) how much you are prepared to sell for. Anyway, if they are genuine buyers they will be prepared to negotiate. If they are not, or you can not agree on a deal, then you haven't lost anything (except perhaps some lawyer fees) so don't stress.

2) You should negotiate both the price, the cash/stock mix and the terms. This latter is by far and away the most complex, and YOU MUST GET A GOOD LAWYER TO ADVISE. The devil is in the details, and as you mention, you must make sure they can't do something like arbitarily fire you and take away your stock.

3) Figure out where you are prepared to sell for. Pitch this to them. Don't be a pussy about this. After the back and forth, if you can agree on broad terms great.

4) They will probably want to draw up the contracts. Of course this means the deal will be weighted in their favour, hence YOU MUST HAVE A LAWTER TO ADVISE - and be prepared to haggle on the various clauses.

5) I would say vested stock is pretty common. But you must make sure you are protected against dilution. And you must check the details concerning the circumstances under which they can take your stock. E.g losing your stock for anything other than gross negligence is a no no.

Good luck!

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#118
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It might be a good deal, but trying to convince someone to not consult advisors indicates to me a certain lack of ethics. As a general rule I don't think it's good to make deals with people you don't trust. That's an, er, interesting rule. A big part of modern financial and legal infra-structure is designed so that we can make business with people we don't trust. If you do business only with you people you can trus…

If by modern financial and legal infra-structure you mean things like stocks, futures, and derivatives, then I don't think I agree. The modern infrastructure insulates two parties in any transaction with brokers and exchanges. For example, if the "losing" party on an options trade can't pay up, the exchange pays for them. The exchanges and brokers set margin requirements to reduce the risk of non-payers.

Funny, I read that as 'banks, lawyers, contracts, standardized protection clauses, best practices'.

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#119
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I have been in this position twice before with a services-based consultancy. The first time it was a similar low-ball offer with 50% paid up front and remainder over 4 years as an earn-out. The total deal was for roughly 4x revenues, and was all cash. We actually didn't think it was such a great deal at the time, but we ended up going all the way to closing. Lo and behold, they actually tried to change one of the mat…

After the deal has gone through (or not), it may even be possible the lessen the anonymity. (Just hoping.)
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