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In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by benhurmarcel »

asdff wrote: post #336
journalctl wrote: post #9

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So what you’re saying is someone had better start working on a competing password manager today.

Like apple, firefox, google, etc... Once the big horses are in the game, it's over. You cannot overcome the brute force of production and cash. Just look at dropbox impoding.

Another example is G Suite. They started as "Gmail with your own domain" and switched to a corporate Office suite. Now individuals that use them regret it more and more.

At least password managers are easy to switch.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by benhurmarcel »

capableweb wrote: post #236
gtf21 wrote: post #61

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Very frustratingly, there's no Linux client and they recommend 1PasswordX for Linux users, which doesn't allow offline vaults, pretty sure it _requires_ 1Password's online service.

It also does not allow you to export, so unless you're willing/can use the osx/windows version, you won't be able to migrate away from it. I personally solved this by writing a short bash script that uses the 1password cli client to dump the json of everything for my backups.

What is the draw to pay a subscription for a product that you have to write scripts to use, when there are free/open-source alternatives that offer a full client (like KeepassXC)?

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Post by benhurmarcel »

munificent wrote: post #297
lorenzhs wrote: post #163

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Saying that $370 is not a lot of money shows just how far removed the tech bubble is from the rest of the world. "Four in 10 adults in 2017 would either borrow, sell something, or not be able pay if faced with a $400 emergency expense." https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/2017-repor... , page 21. That's a lump sum expense, not paid over time, but I think it illustrates quite well that $370 is a lot of m…

This is not an unexpected, one-time $370 expense. It's $370 spent over six years. According to CBS [1], the cheapest city to live in in the US Harlingen, Texas. The Nacho Supreme at Pepe's "homey" Tex-Mex "joint" [2] is $9.95. If you can afford to treat yourself to a plate of those nachos once every two months, then you could have afforded to secure all of your passwords. [1]: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/10-chea…

> then you could have afforded to secure all of your passwords.

You can secure all your passwords for free (with Keepass or Bitwarden for example).

1password doesn't have to justify its price versus not securing your passwords, but versus open-source password managers.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by benhurmarcel »

ceejayoz wrote: post #81
swozey wrote: post #30

I feel like I've spent an absolute fortune on 1password over the last decade. I'm pretty sure it was, what, $70 when I got it 6+ years ago? Now I'm paying monthly (2.99 or 4.99/mo x .. 3-5 years?) which is pretty ironic considering a lot of us initially left LastPass to go to 1pass because it was 100% offline (I'm aware you can do local vaults still). At least the QOL updates have been coming faster lately, especiall…

1Password always seems expensive until I remember how much one major password compromise is likely to cost me.

There are open-source alternatives which are just as secure. You're not paying for the security, but for the polish and convenience.

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Post by capableweb »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #382
capableweb wrote: post #236

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It also does not allow you to export, so unless you're willing/can use the osx/windows version, you won't be able to migrate away from it. I personally solved this by writing a short bash script that uses the 1password cli client to dump the json of everything for my backups.

What is the draw to pay a subscription for a product that you have to write scripts to use, when there are free/open-source alternatives that offer a full client (like KeepassXC)?

I pay for 1Password to have the sync to work between Android, Ubuntu, Arch Linux, Windows and macOS which is the systems I usually use. KeepassXC and alternatives mention nothing about syncing passwords or tells users to self-host their syncing. I'd rather pay a company to do that for me, at least because they will probably be able to do and maintain that setup better than me.

Although, it does carry the trade off of me being reliant on a third-party for my password-sync and that I have to pay. Currently it's worth it for me.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by lotsofpulp »

therealx wrote: post #289
lotsofpulp wrote: post #79

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I like that keychain is limited, at least it makes me feel like there’s fewer possible vulnerabilities. KeepassX and minikeepass on iOS are my go to for secure notes. I don’t see the need for super convenience with my credentials, I’m willing to do some work to access them. Either way, I’m not handing over a database of login info to a SaaS company. Might make sense for large companies though.

Except it's not limited? Have you ever opened "Keychain Access" on your Mac?

No! Wow, didn’t know it had more capabilities. But I use keepassX as it’s easier to create shared databases.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by frosted-flakes »

driverdan wrote: post #86
siproprio wrote: post #76

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Bitwarden had a crappy (and slow) android app, a crappy (and slow, touch based interface, poor right click options, poor design, memory hungry, crippled) windows desktop app, and an OK (for a web app) desktop site. It only beats 1Password on price. If you don't want to pay for a fucking awesome app, good riddance to you.

Their Android app has never seemed slow or crappy to me.

It doesn't scale well though. I have my font size set to maximum, and the Bitwarden app is pretty much unusable. So I use 1Password.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by benhurmarcel »

capableweb wrote: post #385
benhurmarcel wrote: post #382

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is the draw to pay a subscription for a product that you have to write scripts to use, when there are free/open-source alternatives that offer a full client (like KeepassXC)?

I pay for 1Password to have the sync to work between Android, Ubuntu, Arch Linux, Windows and macOS which is the systems I usually use. KeepassXC and alternatives mention nothing about syncing passwords or tells users to self-host their syncing. I'd rather pay a company to do that for me, at least because they will probably be able to do and maintain that setup better than me. Although, it does carry the trade off of…

Bitwarden offers sync and have a Linux client.

I currently use KeepassXC hosted on Dropbox, which takes care of the sync for free. And mobile apps like Keepassium or Strongbox integrate them directly.

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Post by ceejayoz »

benhurmarcel wrote: post #384
ceejayoz wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1Password always seems expensive until I remember how much one major password compromise is likely to cost me.

There are open-source alternatives which are just as secure. You're not paying for the security, but for the polish and convenience.

An unpolished, inconvenient app often doesn't get used.
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