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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

Here's a decentralized Reddit - on the Bitcoin (BCH) blockchain -

https://memberapp.github.io/#topic?type=all&start=0&limit=25...

I've opened a new thread for discussion if you have any questions on it - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21551843

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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I disagree. What Reddit brings to the table is: 1. Easy sharing: Subreddits, which are an easy location to share interesting information about a common topic. Creating your own website is an order of magnitude harder, especially if you want to allow anyone on the internet to post to it 2. Discoverability: You can easily discover subreddits information related to your interests. Reddit's ability to aggregate the vario…

You missed the most important point: 3. Discussions Try discussing anything on a random website. Discussions, just like on HN, are usually better than the linked content.

I didn’t see a lot of discussion at Reddit. I saw echo chambers. I have since deleted my account and abandoned Reddit as a result. If I want focused discussion I find somewhere without a visible vote marker like HN or IRC.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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...and enough people find your content to have a decent conversation without you having to learn marketing?

Try. My blog got 16 visitors from another blog today. (edit: it is now 23!) Won't make me rich. But it makes me happy that I am part of rebuilding an old style web. If you write about interesting stuff, post your website below and I might add a link and I don't care about nofollow and all that SEO stuff. Maybe 5 of my visitors visit you. You won't get rich but you will be part of something.

I did, for 7 or 8 years. It was good for my writing skills (and fun) but it was a little like talking into a vacuum.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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You missed the most important point: 3. Discussions Try discussing anything on a random website. Discussions, just like on HN, are usually better than the linked content.

Honestly, I have a strong interest in US, Chinese, European, and now Russian politics, and how they relate to the future of the humanity and all life on earth. It is clear that most real innovation happens much more quickly and decisively if centralized under a government that decides to spend a lot of money on research, so those are discussions and reading materials that I have to find on places like reddit. Ultimat…

I wouldn't be too sure about the statement that innovation happens faster under centralization (especially government). Rather I'd guess you get certain types of innovations.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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I disagree. What Reddit brings to the table is: 1. Easy sharing: Subreddits, which are an easy location to share interesting information about a common topic. Creating your own website is an order of magnitude harder, especially if you want to allow anyone on the internet to post to it 2. Discoverability: You can easily discover subreddits information related to your interests. Reddit's ability to aggregate the vario…

> Creating your own website is an order of magnitude harder So let's fix that?

The hard part is getting users to visit.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Try. My blog got 16 visitors from another blog today. (edit: it is now 23!) Won't make me rich. But it makes me happy that I am part of rebuilding an old style web. If you write about interesting stuff, post your website below and I might add a link and I don't care about nofollow and all that SEO stuff. Maybe 5 of my visitors visit you. You won't get rich but you will be part of something.

I did, for 7 or 8 years. It was good for my writing skills (and fun) but it was a little like talking into a vacuum.

Activitypub is one solution. Write.as implements a blogging platform that federates with other platforms using the same protocol, such as Mastodon or Pleroma.

They still haven't implemented support for seeing comments on the blog post itself, but once they have that it seems to be exactly what you are looking for.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

I thought I wanted this until I ended up going to multiple of these sites that claim to do decentralized reddit. They're full of nazi bullshit. I look at mastodon instances and any non-moderated ones is white-supremacist shit. I'm not sure if the average consumer wants to see that.

Thankfully most instances are moderated though, and so far it seems to be working reasonably well.

Of course, it's still smaller than Twitter for example so we'll see how it goes when it grows larger, but right now it's working, in my opinion.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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The toxic elements didn't exist invisibly. They bled out regularly into unrelated subreddits. For example, the fat phobia of /r/FatPeopleHate seemed ever present for a time. Popped up in many different places. And then after the sub was banned and many of its users banned, that particular form of insults & speech mostly vanished. It was a huge quality of life improvement for the site overall. There have been similar…

New hate groups and power sub's pop up with the same toxicity but on a different theme. The psycho redpill has been replaced with a version for women. Reddit doesn't want a 'better' site it just cycles the garbage to fit the trends.

>The psycho redpill has been replaced with a version for women.

Can you elaborate on this?

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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There already is a decentralized Reddit where subreddits are called websites and anyone can start one and run it as they please. What Reddit and similar sites bring to the table is a single pool of authenticated users. Once a user is logged into Reddit, posting on different subreddits is frictionless. Even with oauth and the like, it is hard to replicate that with a distributed set of sites.

We could end up with an interesting solution with constraints like: - Self-hosted mostly-static sites - Open protocol Maybe: - Own domain - Own site is portal for aggregated views - Extensions (Install events, chat, ...) - Rust (minimal RAM)

micro.blog is something like this, federation for personal blogs
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