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I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Isn't this just Square, but with cheaper processing fees (since Stripe is eating the bill)?

That's funny: I read "Stripe," but was thinking of Square the whole time and asking, WTF, how did this functionality not exist? Wasn't that the whole point?

Now I think how the hell did Stripe even work without being able to accept cards? What's the point of it, then?

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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post #10

Isn't this just Square, but with cheaper processing fees (since Stripe is eating the bill)?

>but with cheaper processing fees

What? The product's page says it charges 1% + whatever Stripe charges ("generally" 2.9% + $0.3). A quick search says that Square charges 2.6% + $0.10 per in-person transaction. Seems like that this product is more expensive than Square.

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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post #10

Isn't this just Square, but with cheaper processing fees (since Stripe is eating the bill)?

>but with cheaper processing fees What? The product's page says it charges 1% + whatever Stripe charges ("generally" 2.9% + $0.3). A quick search says that Square charges 2.6% + $0.10 per in-person transaction. Seems like that this product is more expensive than Square.

Ah, good find! The article claims

> The app collects a 1% service fee on every single charge.

Per your comment, this is indeed a more expensive Square. Square already does Card Not Present transactions.

The question then is why do people choose to use this?

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but with cheaper processing fees What? The product's page says it charges 1% + whatever Stripe charges ("generally" 2.9% + $0.3). A quick search says that Square charges 2.6% + $0.10 per in-person transaction. Seems like that this product is more expensive than Square.

Ah, good find! The article claims > The app collects a 1% service fee on every single charge. Per your comment, this is indeed a more expensive Square. Square already does Card Not Present transactions. The question then is why do people choose to use this?

The only thing I can think of is because certain issuers/networks treat Card Not Present transactions differently for chargeback disputes. For example, depending on the network, if you fail to collect CVV or zip code, you automatically lose second presentment rights. I don’t know how CNP vs CP charges are priced, but the mere presence of different fraud liability treatment leads me to believe there’s a fundamentally different lens applied to online transactions, and real life (less likely to be fraud?) transactions.

Just my guess

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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post #12
post #10

Isn't this just Square, but with cheaper processing fees (since Stripe is eating the bill)?

>but with cheaper processing fees What? The product's page says it charges 1% + whatever Stripe charges ("generally" 2.9% + $0.3). A quick search says that Square charges 2.6% + $0.10 per in-person transaction. Seems like that this product is more expensive than Square.

Good for him for getting paid now. But that margin is too fat to go unchallenged. Market forced and competition will grind that 1% down quickly.

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but after having all that infrastructure and resources built up an expansion should be easier than starting at zero.

Stripe is kind of analogous to a utility company here. They're an upstream provider. They don't care about what "infrastructure and resources" you've built. If you break the terms of service, they will cut you off, just like if you don't pay for your gas/electric you will quickly find yourself with a non-functional home, regardless of how fancy it is.

Is Stripe forced to do this because of their upstream provider ToS, Well's Fargo?

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stripe is kind of analogous to a utility company here. They're an upstream provider. They don't care about what "infrastructure and resources" you've built. If you break the terms of service, they will cut you off, just like if you don't pay for your gas/electric you will quickly find yourself with a non-functional home, regardless of how fancy it is.

Is Stripe forced to do this because of their upstream provider ToS, Well's Fargo?

Does it matter? It's a private business, they can do what they want, right?

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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It's interesting how a common tenet of startups is "build products, not features" -- and yet here's a very clear example of a "feature" that can be very successful.

It seems like startup advice is based on the repeatable observations that people who've worked with a lot of startups have discovered. That means there are a bunch of situations that don't get covered because they don't come up a lot.

When playing an odds game like startups, you want to do all the maximally viable things possible, but that doesn't mean other decisions aren't also viable, they're just not observed to be as successful, so they're not mentioned. Doesn't mean they won't work.

There's also opportunity cost. What could this team have done if they were working on something more... disruptive? The execution here is incredible, applying that to a new problem would have probably also done very well.

Re: I Created a $60K/Month App That Collects In-Person Payments Through Stripe

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>but with cheaper processing fees What? The product's page says it charges 1% + whatever Stripe charges ("generally" 2.9% + $0.3). A quick search says that Square charges 2.6% + $0.10 per in-person transaction. Seems like that this product is more expensive than Square.

Good for him for getting paid now. But that margin is too fat to go unchallenged. Market forced and competition will grind that 1% down quickly.

The margin might be ample, but the fact that it adds up to only $60K per month might not attract much competition. This is no unicorn, it pays the bills for a couple of families.
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