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Post by faizshah »

ratfaced-guy wrote: post #294

What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

Every few years we all say there needs to be a new reddit but the reddit alternatives out there always devolve into places no regular person wants to join. I think there’s a balance between centralized moderation and allowing creativity and free speech that makes reddit work. We don’t give them enough credit for it.

Even HN has just the right balance that makes this place have some of the best threads on the internet.

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Post by lucasmullens »

sergiotapia wrote: post #274
TulliusCicero wrote: post #199

"Since all content on the platform can be edited or deleted by other users, he believes there's a good incentive for good behavior by users." There is zero chance this policy survives having a million+ users intact.

"Good behavior" is double speak for "following the groupthink". Just look at wikipedia for an example of how bad this can become, where 1/3 of all content is edited and moderated by one dude with all his biases. This wiki model is not the solution.

Could you point to something specific about the "1/3 of all content is edited and moderated by one dude"? Not sure where to look.

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Post by basch »

godelski wrote: post #353
paulddraper wrote: post #331

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have Costco premium or whatever the highest one is. Consistently great quality + deals. Right now they're selling a Costco-sized box of 1,500 Legos for $40.

Also get the executive. At the end of the year you get back 2% or $60, whichever is higher. So if you can front the extra $60, there's no reason to not do it.

To get the up to $60 refund you have to quit the executive program. You dont get the difference every year, AND get to keep making 2%.

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Post by basch »

ansible wrote: post #159
basch wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of Prime is getting you to give them $120 membership fee so you feel youre getting some kind of bonus buying from them ("free shipping") which reduces comparison shopping. I'm probably not going to buy $100/year memberships to costco, walmart, amazon, and target, even though im half way there and really tempted to pull the trigger on another. The membership fees almost pay for themselves just in preventing me fr…

I feel that Costco is worth it just based on bulk-buying toilet paper, dish detergent, and such.

Is this kind of bulk really much cheaper than walmart?

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Post by Semaphor »

dunnevens wrote: post #344
zionic wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I only started browsing reddit after advertisers forced them to purge the most toxic users/content from the site. Reddit, as a site, is built around you having to subscribe to things to see it on your front page. Are you saying that opinions you disagree with (toxic) merely existing invisibly prevents you from using a platform? Because if that's not the case you were never forced to interact with those subs unless…

The toxic elements didn't exist invisibly. They bled out regularly into unrelated subreddits. For example, the fat phobia of /r/FatPeopleHate seemed ever present for a time. Popped up in many different places. And then after the sub was banned and many of its users banned, that particular form of insults & speech mostly vanished. It was a huge quality of life improvement for the site overall. There have been similar…

I feel like I’m in between both of you. On the one hand, stuff like fatpeoplehate never had any influence on my usage of reddit, on the other hand I never felt like there was a big difference between before and after the ban (of this or any other subreddit). The big subs are still utter shit, any decently sized sub without strong moderation is utter shit. Small subs are most of the time amazing.

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Post by Marsymars »

wtmt wrote: post #62

I checked it out by creating an account. It detected my country as India, and showed the price to jump the waitlist (currently at 60k) as $12.99 a month or $100 a year. Contrast this to (using current conversion rates from INR to USD): * Netflix here starts at $2.8 for the cheapest (mobile only, single screen) plan and has its highest plan (4K, four screens) at $11.2 a month. Netflix is considered so expensive that a…

> For example, Cloudflare WARP+ costs about $0.97 a month (compared to $4.99 a month in the US).

That's fairly country-dependant - I actually sent some feedback to Cloudflare expressing my disappointment with their pricing - it's currently 5.30 USD in my country with 20% lower purchasing power than the USA.

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Post by rladd »

wtmt wrote: post #62

I checked it out by creating an account. It detected my country as India, and showed the price to jump the waitlist (currently at 60k) as $12.99 a month or $100 a year. Contrast this to (using current conversion rates from INR to USD): * Netflix here starts at $2.8 for the cheapest (mobile only, single screen) plan and has its highest plan (4K, four screens) at $11.2 a month. Netflix is considered so expensive that a…

My guess is that they'd get much more (more than 10x) uptake at $1.99 than they will at $12.99.

And they need volume to make it work. So this pricing seems like a big mistake to me.

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Post by Marsymars »

ansible wrote: post #159
basch wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Part of Prime is getting you to give them $120 membership fee so you feel youre getting some kind of bonus buying from them ("free shipping") which reduces comparison shopping. I'm probably not going to buy $100/year memberships to costco, walmart, amazon, and target, even though im half way there and really tempted to pull the trigger on another. The membership fees almost pay for themselves just in preventing me fr…

I feel that Costco is worth it just based on bulk-buying toilet paper, dish detergent, and such.

I live in a small place so don't buy much in bulk, but pay for at least half my Costco membership in toothbrush heads alone.
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