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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

Have you heard of mastodon? It seems like what you are looking for. https://joinmastodon.org/

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Ah, somebody posted it before I could. :) (Disclosure: I’m the creator of Aether, happy to answer any questions)

It sounds like just what I want. But I use VPNs. So I'd need to get a mapped port. What port does Aether want? Edit: Also, can I just install from source?

It will get whatever it can. You also don’t need a mapped port, Aether can punch holes through firewalls via reverse-opens. (Though having a port open will significantly increase your connection speed and frequency.)

You can look at the port it chooses through netstat, it does not have a fixed port. However, once it gets a working one, it won’t change it from then on so you can map that port.

Edit: you can, but it having an Electron shell for UI (the actual app is Go) makes the build process somewhat complicated. It’s on GitHub though, feel free to take a look at the makefile and give it a shot.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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As someone who miss the original Whatsapp a lot I was about to reach for my wallet, but this seems to be more of a wiki than a social network to me:

> Since all content on the platform can be edited or deleted by other users, he believes there's a good incentive for good behavior by users.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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I feel that Costco is worth it just based on bulk-buying toilet paper, dish detergent, and such.

I have Costco premium or whatever the highest one is. Consistently great quality + deals. Right now they're selling a Costco-sized box of 1,500 Legos for $40.

> a Costco-sized box of 1,500 Legos for $40.

Man, you can't just put information like this out there. I can't be trusted with this knowledge.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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It’s easier now than ever. The difference is that normal people don’t venture off the big websites now.

It is easy to set up a site, to blog and people can comment and you do not get drowned in auto spam? Where and how?

https://wordpress.com is relatively simple, prevents SPAM, and has tools to discover and follow other blogs.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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You could treat a link to the post as a proxy for an upvote, and then rank posts based on how many other posts link to them. Of course you wouldn't be able to charge for this service so you'd have to sell ad space on the front page.

That would be an exceedingly thin signal. Very few posts will have incoming links, so you'll get very little scoring data. The signal will be hugely susceptible to outlier bias -- The Post That Goes Viral, and generates a huge number of incoming links -- will dominate the rankings. Because the signal is so thin, distorting and manipulation (through link farming) will be cheap and difficult to detect (a small number o…

My comment was a tongue in cheek reference to early Google. I can't tell if you missed the joke or just one upped me on a heroic scale.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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You can't upvote though. One of the nice things same Reddit is that you can go to a subreddit about something you want to learn about and sort for the most popular posts from last year (for example). Some kind of system like that for websites could become a killer feature.

You could treat a link to the post as a proxy for an upvote, and then rank posts based on how many other posts link to them. Of course you wouldn't be able to charge for this service so you'd have to sell ad space on the front page.

Isn't that PageRank? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PageRank Or did I miss the subtle joke.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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With something like squarespace or any of the umpteen other design by wooden block site generator companies, or even Wordpress or Blogger... probably?

But those aren't free necessarily and they're detached from one another. The thing that's attractive about Reddit is: 1. It's free 2. It's all under one site so it's easier for people to find a new community to join 3. You only need one account and it doesn't require an email address so if you have a one off woodworking question you can ask it without having to register on a new forum Websites are great for displayin…

> It's all under one site so it's easier for people to find a new community to join

In theory you can find new subreddits starting from the main page, but it's more often because of people cross-posting things from somewhere you weren't previously aware existed.

There isn't any technical reason why a decentralized system couldn't work the same way. Basically just need a standard way to designate posts as permissible to repost on other sites with a link-back, and then a button on the site that makes it easy to do that.

> You only need one account and it doesn't require an email address so if you have a one off woodworking question you can ask it without having to register on a new forum

Small sites should go the other way and use an email as the login name (distinct from the public display name if you want). Then you don't even have a password, to sign in you get an email with a token in it. Paste the token or click the link from the email and you get a cookie that keeps you signed in. Lose the cookie or want to sign into another device and they send you another email.

Then "signup" takes five seconds, there's no login to forget (it's your email) and no password to forget (it doesn't even exist), so doing this on a hundred independent websites doesn't matter. You don't even have to use the email you actually read, you could use one exclusively for this type of account and then ignore anything that comes to it that isn't a site login token.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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I could shell out $13/mo, or, you know... not use a social network. I don't use one now, and I'm doing just fine.

HN is a social network

Although I would definitely consider HN to be a social network, the number of comments here disagreeing made me look into it a bit more. According to Wikipedia both Hacker News and Reddit are "social news websites".

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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From WT:Social's website > We will foster an environment where bad actors are removed because it is right, not because it suddenly affects our bottom-line. But what constitutes a bad actor?

Potentially: Someone who's unmitigated selfishness harms others.
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