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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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I usually donate to Wikimedia every year, and I was a donator for WikiTribune and followed it closely as it rolled out. I personally think that Wikipedia is one of the most valuable resources on the internet. Watching WikiTribune flounder in its early days left me feeling disillusioned. It quickly began to seem like a project lacking clear product vision (or else a team that could execute on such a vision). I eventua…

I really miss the news app Circa. vs it's later reincarnations.

Major stories broken down to factual info and direct quotes with each item a tile with the source indicated a link to their version of the story.

I could catch up on a dozen major stories in minutes and track them as updates were pulled in as top level tiles with the new information and again link out to the source.

Clean, accessible, felt very unbiased without any spin just data and events as reported, but no commercial value so floundered.

well, it was bought out by Sinclair in 2015 and that's about as biased as shadow owners can be. The original incarnation was incredible.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

The problem I always have is "all my friends". I joined MSN messenger in the 2003(ish) only because that was the only away to join my friends. Facebook came next, and what's app moved them over to that. When it comes to " social media", the clue is in the name.

What is the solution?

A system that using a unique ID I can contact anyone else in the world, the two methods are voice or message. :)

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

So... usenet? But with voting? I'm down. NNTP is due for an update.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Just my guess, but I bet that from this point on, few people (in the developed world) will race to sign up for a new social network. Why? Given the societal and personal costs (and benefits) that we've seen with previous social networks, a lot of lay people are re-evaluating the utility that such services provide them. In many cases, the answer is to keep your current social network, but increasingly disengage from i…

I have a fairly large network of friends that existed before FB really had wide adoption. The platform they were on eventually died in favor of facebook. At this point, I'd like to preserve that network of friends independent of facebook and most of those folks feel similarly. In that sense, there is at least some demand for a social network that isn't evil.

> some demand for a social network that isn't evil.

What are the chances that actually exists though? Like, for more than a couple years?

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

> What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs Isn't this basically what Disqus was trying to do? There were a lot of these. I think moderation ended up being a huge problem that none solved. > Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content I've had the opposite experience. I only started browsing reddit after advertisers forced them to purge the most toxic users/content from the…

> Isn't this basically what Disqus was trying to do?

I don't think so. As far as I can tell, Disqus is not decentralized at all. It's basically the same as Facebook comments but from a different company.

https://developers.facebook.com/docs/plugins/comments/

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a fairly large network of friends that existed before FB really had wide adoption. The platform they were on eventually died in favor of facebook. At this point, I'd like to preserve that network of friends independent of facebook and most of those folks feel similarly. In that sense, there is at least some demand for a social network that isn't evil.

> some demand for a social network that isn't evil. What are the chances that actually exists though? Like, for more than a couple years?

I'll go out on a limb and say, "small".

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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post #31

Just my guess, but I bet that from this point on, few people (in the developed world) will race to sign up for a new social network. Why? Given the societal and personal costs (and benefits) that we've seen with previous social networks, a lot of lay people are re-evaluating the utility that such services provide them. In many cases, the answer is to keep your current social network, but increasingly disengage from i…

I agree that people aren't looking for new social networks, but I do wonder about your view of disengaging from Facebook. I keep reading about it on HN but I'm not seeing it myself. I wonder if it's a US-centric view.

Facebook usage is mpre healthy than its ever been in the U.S.

I think a lot of HN sentiment has to do with age and timing.

Lots of tech-savvy, younger people used it 10+ years ago when it was hot and semi-exclusive. Now their older and it's less hot and exclusive.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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A lot of the good “social networks” these days are organized a single topic or community. Like a community slack/discord or moderated subreddit. I wonder whether there will be much of a market for open ended social networks into the 2020s as both twitter and Facebook have become cesspools... and frankly don’t feel like good places to interact with folks

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about Aether : https://getaether.net/ ?

> Windows 7 or higher https://getaether.net/download/ That does cover much of the market... but leaves out Linux, MacOS, and mobile.

I visited that page from Manjaro and it says it supports any Linux distro with Snap support (so most).
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