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Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by catalogia »

dredmorbius wrote: post #108
jszymborski wrote: post #59

I've been consuming my YouTube videos via RSS and youtube-dl these days. I have a little python script that collects the video urls from the feed, downloads them, and then NewsBlur notifies me of the new videos. NewsBlur has become the way I find new academic papers (arXiv/journal RSS feeds), consume the news, webcomics, and YouTube videos.

Youtube-dl is an incredible tool, and supports far more than YouTube. I was pleased as punch yesterday to discover that Shoshana Zuboff's talk (shared to HN) on a video site I'd never previously heard of was supported. There are other related tools. VLC, both the desktop client (Linux, MacOS, Windows), and to a somewhat lesser extent, the Android client, can also stream video, most certainly from YouTube. Given the s…

> "mpv is a console multimedia player, successor to mplayer, which can integrate with youtube-dl via the '--ytdl' switch."

No switch is needed anymore, mpv has built in support for youtube-dl now through the ytdl.lua extension which automatically uses youtube-dl when necessary. Simply run `mpv [URL]`

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by hombre_fatal »

thedaemon wrote: post #67
desdiv wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When regular users visit youtube.com, they get a page with some videos on it. Regardless of whether they're logged in or not, there are videos there. Banned users visiting youtube.com will just get a text page[0] with zero video content. Google will use all the dirty tracking tricks to make sure that banned users remain banned even when their IP or device changes. [0] https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png

Please, do you know how to get banned from Google? I'd love to not be tracked by them anymore.

Open an Adsense account and click your own ads. Though I'd think these days it just bans you from the Adsense program.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by fittslickare »

dredmorbius wrote: post #108
jszymborski wrote: post #59

I've been consuming my YouTube videos via RSS and youtube-dl these days. I have a little python script that collects the video urls from the feed, downloads them, and then NewsBlur notifies me of the new videos. NewsBlur has become the way I find new academic papers (arXiv/journal RSS feeds), consume the news, webcomics, and YouTube videos.

Youtube-dl is an incredible tool, and supports far more than YouTube. I was pleased as punch yesterday to discover that Shoshana Zuboff's talk (shared to HN) on a video site I'd never previously heard of was supported. There are other related tools. VLC, both the desktop client (Linux, MacOS, Windows), and to a somewhat lesser extent, the Android client, can also stream video, most certainly from YouTube. Given the s…

Pssh be quiet. The normally quiet Google employees will arrive, calling for stronger attacks on the ytdl.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by dredmorbius »

catalogia wrote: post #111
dredmorbius wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Youtube-dl is an incredible tool, and supports far more than YouTube. I was pleased as punch yesterday to discover that Shoshana Zuboff's talk (shared to HN) on a video site I'd never previously heard of was supported. There are other related tools. VLC, both the desktop client (Linux, MacOS, Windows), and to a somewhat lesser extent, the Android client, can also stream video, most certainly from YouTube. Given the s…

> "mpv is a console multimedia player, successor to mplayer, which can integrate with youtube-dl via the '--ytdl' switch." No switch is needed anymore, mpv has built in support for youtube-dl now through the ytdl.lua extension which automatically uses youtube-dl when necessary. Simply run `mpv [URL]`

TIL, thanks!

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by Ogopogostick »

thinkingemote wrote: post #23
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #17

What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

They have clarified that this means they can terminate their services, not your accounts. However with recent balls ups it was easy to read it differently

Has it been verified in a lawsuit? It seems silly to give the benefit of the doubt in this situation. Especially when the grammar of the wording empowers them to do more than just terminate services.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by ridaj »

MrGilbert wrote: post #89
fredley wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no way for me to verify that what you're running is the same as what you have in GitHub. And for anyone else running it. You should disable this feature.

Why should he? It‘s your choice to use it or not. If you feel uncomfortable, go and selfhost it. Or don‘t use it at all. But there is no reasoning to prohibit it for everyone.

Altruistically, it trains users that it is ok, which it isn't.

Selfishly, the author really does not want to be storing or even handling these kinds of credentials. It makes them a very juicy target for all kinds of bad actors. Imagine finding yourself in the middle of some kind of account hijacking nightmare that you have unwittingly enabled, having to deal with people who trusted you and have lost access to their account or have lost money because people accessed data in their account that allows for id theft.

Basically people should treat passwords (even other people's passwords) as radioactive material and not attempt to handle them unless they really know what they're doing.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

ekianjo wrote: post #45
user0191 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It written right ther: > Terminations and Suspensions by YouTube for Cause > YouTube may suspend or terminate your access, your Google account, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service The question is why we still don't believe it even when it's written in black and white?

What is there to terminate if you browse Youtube without signing in?

Your accounts? As if they don't know who you are when you're not signed in.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by ZoomZoomZoom »

Fnoord wrote: post #29
ZoomZoomZoom wrote: post #17

What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

As long as you don't use your account, it'll remain working. Google can't just ban 33% of the internet users (read: those with adblockers) over night without repercussions. If they'd, a YouTube clone with network effect would rise up right away. So they'll want to play some kind of other game. A long game (Manifest v3), a FUD game, who knows?

May be they can't do it to 33%, but they might start with some smaller strata, Invidious users for example.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by thedaemon »

thedaemon wrote: post #67
desdiv wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When regular users visit youtube.com, they get a page with some videos on it. Regardless of whether they're logged in or not, there are videos there. Banned users visiting youtube.com will just get a text page[0] with zero video content. Google will use all the dirty tracking tricks to make sure that banned users remain banned even when their IP or device changes. [0] https://i.imgur.com/qTTGhhG.png

Please, do you know how to get banned from Google? I'd love to not be tracked by them anymore.

Why am I getting down voted for asking an honest question?

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Post by notpiika »

jszymborski wrote: post #59

I've been consuming my YouTube videos via RSS and youtube-dl these days. I have a little python script that collects the video urls from the feed, downloads them, and then NewsBlur notifies me of the new videos. NewsBlur has become the way I find new academic papers (arXiv/journal RSS feeds), consume the news, webcomics, and YouTube videos.

Care to share the script?
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