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In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by sagichmal »

sixstringtheory wrote: post #281
sagichmal wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the goal is to avoid having to remember strong passwords, then a strong password generator + a paper journal is resistant to more threat models and should be preferred. Password managers without transparent sync and autofill UX are a half-product at best.

It’s probably similar but I’m not convinced it’s preferred. If I lose that journal anyone can read it. If I lose my computer it is most likely locked already, and if not it (as well as 1PW) autolocks itself after a short time. Also like I mentioned elsewhere, I do sync my vaults, but only using the local WiFi option.

There are nearly infinite vectors to exfiltrate files from your computer, the vast majority of which are currently unknown to you, and would be entirely undetected. And what's more, most of those vectors can be done from anywhere on the planet.

There is only one way to exfiltrate information from a notebook, it requires physical proximity, and it's very likely that you would notice.

Every rational threat model for almost every human on the planet (excepting perhaps major political, cultural, or economic figures) would conclude in the paper journal being the better (safer) choice.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by jejeiloo9 »

ksec wrote: post #344
jejeiloo9 wrote: post #231

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The potential is just as huge Apple and MS add “good enough” solutions. From a biz context, 1pwd is winning in its niche. But it’s just a feature the OS vendors haven’t prioritized from a technical context. I am grabbing AWS keys from MacOS keychain and can access creds I save in iCloud from any device. Uh oh 1pwd

That is assuming your whole Enterprise is only on macOS, which I think none of the Fortune 500 companies are. If you have cross platform to support, and want the best experience ( or I should say equal experience ) than a decent third party Password Manager is the only way to go. I would have thought Google would be interested in this market, but ever since the birth of Android, all the wanted is Chrome or Android In…

You inferred that’s what I was implying.

I wasn’t implying that at all. I said “OS vendors” and used my anecdote as one example of what I mean.

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Post by ArlenBales »

alpb wrote: post #331
ArlenBales wrote: post #273

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I pay for 1Password subscription, but I set my mother up for the free version using Dropbox sync. Super simple and probably what 99% of people need anyway (1 vault).

Does 1Password 7 actually support buying a license instead of a cloud subscription? You mentioned a "free version" using local Dropbox sync –that was definitely not free in 1Password 6 as that's what I'm doing right now. What has changed?

The main thing that's changed is only having 1 vault, but there are probably some other features that my mom wouldn't care for anyway. But yes, in 1Password 7 (or whenever they went with the subscription model) you can now use it for free if you still go with Dropbox sync.

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Post by alpb »

ArlenBales wrote: post #373
alpb wrote: post #331

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Does 1Password 7 actually support buying a license instead of a cloud subscription? You mentioned a "free version" using local Dropbox sync –that was definitely not free in 1Password 6 as that's what I'm doing right now. What has changed?

The main thing that's changed is only having 1 vault, but there are probably some other features that my mom wouldn't care for anyway. But yes, in 1Password 7 (or whenever they went with the subscription model) you can now use it for free if you still go with Dropbox sync.

Hmm are you sure? I just installed 1Password 7 for Mac, and it has replaced the 1Password 6 (which I had a license for).

It has detected Dropbox sync out-of-the-box and kept working with existing settings. But it won't refill passwords, unless I either subscribe or buy a license (a pop-up forces me to do so). I'm curious why you're not seeing the same behavior.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by siproprio »

RHSeeger wrote: post #198
siproprio wrote: post #76

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Bitwarden had a crappy (and slow) android app, a crappy (and slow, touch based interface, poor right click options, poor design, memory hungry, crippled) windows desktop app, and an OK (for a web app) desktop site. It only beats 1Password on price. If you don't want to pay for a fucking awesome app, good riddance to you.

I'm using the Birwarden Windows app (and Mac app) right now, and both seem great to me.

Then perhaps you never used a better app.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Post by nixgeek »

scarface74 wrote: post #363
nixgeek wrote: post #356

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They’re selling Teams at $4/mo per user and I guess if they go after enterprise we’ll see additional tiers with features aimed specifically at that. It doesn’t take too many deals with huge companies who need cross-platform to get to $200-300 million, and “worth” $3.2bn. Multiples from revenue have been a little interesting lately.

And as soon as they start moving into the enterprise, Microsoft is going to offer a good enough cross platform password manager and bundle it into Office 365. People made the same argument with Slack. How is that working out? I don’t know about Android, but iOS supports third party password managers through the extension system.

Slack has a $12bn market cap, therefore “pretty well”.

I think competition in this space is good but I use and like Slack over Teams.

I know at least two companies who pay Slack over $20MM a year, and have over 100k users provisioned onto Enterprise Grid, and who are also happy consumers of Microsoft Office 365.

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Post by scarface74 »

nixgeek wrote: post #376
scarface74 wrote: post #363

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And as soon as they start moving into the enterprise, Microsoft is going to offer a good enough cross platform password manager and bundle it into Office 365. People made the same argument with Slack. How is that working out? I don’t know about Android, but iOS supports third party password managers through the extension system.

Slack has a $12bn market cap, therefore “pretty well”. I think competition in this space is good but I use and like Slack over Teams. I know at least two companies who pay Slack over $20MM a year, and have over 100k users provisioned onto Enterprise Grid, and who are also happy consumers of Microsoft Office 365.

What is it about people defining success of a for profit business by market cap instead of you know - the ability to make a profit?

Being able to sell $1 for 95 cents is not a successful business strategy.

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Post by benhurmarcel »

yardie wrote: post #72
warpech wrote: post #54

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Bitwarden IMO beats LastPass and 1Password. Very polished, hassle free experience

I have 1Password and Bitwarden on my screen right now. Bitwarden does not hold a candle to 1Password. There is no Watchtower or MFA availability notification. Yes, BW is a password manager, and that is about it.

At least it has a Linux client. 1password cannot justify its price for Linux users when it only offers a browser extension…

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Post by benhurmarcel »

overcast wrote: post #66
bernierocks wrote: post #57

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If you asked me about 1password a few years ago, I would agree with you. Ever since they went to the cloud, I stopped using and recommending them to friends and family. I now use Keypss, which is free and doesn't require the cloud. The only reason they went to the cloud is because most people were buying one copy and sharing it with multiple people. It's a way for them to make more money, which is fine, but I really…

and the reason I went to their cloud solution, is so that I can sync passwords between my iPhone, Mac, PC, and Linux machines. It's $35.88 for an entire year of something that I use constantly, every day, and it works perfectly.

>and Linux machines

They don't have a proper Linux client

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Post by benhurmarcel »

dawnerd wrote: post #308
ble52 wrote: post #131

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Personally I like that macOS and Windows apps are different. Those are two different platforms, with their own design paradigms, human interface guidelines, etc. They should have different versions, tailored specifically for the OS they're running on. I don't like apps, usually Electron- or something like that-based, that are exactly the same on all platforms, because they feel out of place on all of them, IMHO.

Thats fine and all but there's some things the windows app just doesn't do or do well at all compared to mac. Searching is one of them, along with being able to use 1pass x with the desktop app for auth. I'm just amazed that they have so many employees yet their window and browser apps are still really lacking. Side nitpick: it's annoying that they're moving to 1Password X. I really don't want to run the desktop app…

> I'm just amazed that they have so many employees yet their window and browser apps are still really lacking.

Well they're lacking an entire platform (Linux), so it's not even just about differences in polish.

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