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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

What about Aether : https://getaether.net/ ?

That seems perfect.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There already is a decentralized Reddit where subreddits are called websites and anyone can start one and run it as they please" But can your grandmother do this ... or just the common person?

Once upon a time, yes.

It’s easier now than ever. The difference is that normal people don’t venture off the big websites now.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

I'm a little surprised no one's tried reviving newsgroups for discussions. Decentralized, not privacy-invading, can be rendered by a large variety of front-ends. Somewhat censorship resistant. There would be a huge potential spam problem, but that can be controlled by filters and moderators.

Maybe Usenet would be more of a headache than it's worth, but it seems perfect for what you're describing.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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It is better to pay cash for online services than to pay through your private information. If the service is free you are the currency, all your interest are sold for profit.

I would much rather pay for online services like email, news and content than to sell info about myself through ads to private companies.

Useful services: Email Protonmail,fastmail

Online video Peertube

Paying for social media.

Paying for newspapers online, this is so they do not have to sell their platform and independence to ads.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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post #62

I checked it out by creating an account. It detected my country as India, and showed the price to jump the waitlist (currently at 60k) as $12.99 a month or $100 a year. Contrast this to (using current conversion rates from INR to USD): * Netflix here starts at $2.8 for the cheapest (mobile only, single screen) plan and has its highest plan (4K, four screens) at $11.2 a month. Netflix is considered so expensive that a…

Why is there even a wait list at all? This feels sketchy from first use. And to not be up front about the cost before getting my personal information is, I feel, dishonest. How can he expect to create a platform of honest people if he is dishonest from the point of account creation? This is not the way to do it.

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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

Prismo[1] was an attempt at that if anyone wants some historical context.

[1] https://gitlab.com/prismosuite/prismo

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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>We will foster an environment where bad actors are removed because it is right, not because it suddenly affects our bottom-line. Who will determine what a bad actor is and what criteria will be used. We have already seen the effect of people banned from sites for political and religious views, so do we really need another site that will just do the same?

What exactly has been the effect? Which political and religious views are you talking about? I can think of instances of neo-Naxis being kicked off Facebook and Cloudflare, but no instances of it happening according to religious views?

If you are OK with banning Nazis from a platform, then you’ve accepted the premise that certain bad actors should be removed, and now you’re in a debate about where the line should be drawn.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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post #301

What I want is a decentralized Reddit not under the control of advertising needs. Reddit redesign has been bad for quality content. I actually find Reddit to be a better source of information and knowledge than Google at this point, mostly because Google has been inundated with paid blog-spam. It's a bit harder to get away with that in Reddit (for the time being, and for whatever reason).

How would you go about creating something like that?

ActivityPub. Prismo already tried it, the developer just burned out before it got anywhere usable.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once upon a time, yes.

It’s easier now than ever. The difference is that normal people don’t venture off the big websites now.

It is easy to set up a site, to blog and people can comment and you do not get drowned in auto spam?

Where and how?

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