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> Nobody actively courted activists. Yes, actually they did actively court them. Here's one of many examples: https://diversity.google/ Younger generations are not politically homogeneous, Google picked a political position and pushed it hard.
Generic corporate commitment to 'diversity' is activism? Yeesh.
There are only two genders: Male, and Political.
There are only two races: White, and Political.
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So Google is a ' left to far left' company except when it's being 'right to far right' sometimes?
1) Yes, it's a giant company that does many things. 2) The thread is about the majority political position of its employees. This is entire separate from the actions as a corporation. 3) Many of things Google does that people think are "right-wing" have nothing to do with left-vs-right at all.
> Google and most SV companies are somewhere between left to far-left.
1) Completely contradicts what you said earlier above
2) How? When does it stop being people and start being a corp? Aren't the decisions made by employees?
3) So? You just linked 'diversity' to left and far-left, isn't that the same thing that started this side thread? How is that site linked with activism or left politics? You mentioned a "pretty clear" connection.
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I fail to see how that really matters. Facebook had all kinds of media exposure (Cambridge Analytica, Libra, etc). Nothing happened.
He's referring to individuals. There have certainly been consequences for some of them.
Okay, fair point, that's an interpretation that occurred to me after posting the comment, but I'm not really familiar with any high profile case. Has FB sent away anyone? Or G? Due to leaks about real talk I mean. (And I guess the answer must be some sort of yes, after all they are huge organizations and the culture of taking responsibility via looking-for-new-challenges is a rather Western thing, so maybe I'm just too far from it.)
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More like “anyone who says racist, homophobic, sexist things is probably a racist, homophobe, or sexist”.
Except if they're a leftist, liberal type, of course. Or even an adherent of a "preferred" or "protected" religion. These get to say racist, sexist, homophobic things all day long, and none of their fellow activists would bat an eye.
To your point, the left's treatment of Trudeau's blackface is an interesting case study.
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To be clear, "keep politics out of the workplace" is another way of saying "I'm okay with the status quo, and if you don't like it I don't want to hear about it at work".
No it absolutely isn't. Adding an arbitrary and incendiary meaning to what others say is a major problem. You can create as many enemies as you want that way and it just fuels more division.
Pointing out the inherent privilege-preserving effects of discouraging challenge to the status quo is not adding an incendiary meaning. It's lifting a latent consequence to the level of manifest evidence.
This understandably makes some people uncomfortable. It challenges beliefs, it challenges self-worth, it challenges value systems, it challenges worldviews.
None of these invalidate the underlying concept that sheltering today's winners from any challenge, complaint, or criticism, is inherently repressive to those outside that class.
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More like “anyone who says racist, homophobic, sexist things is probably a racist, homophobe, or sexist”.
Except if they're a leftist, liberal type, of course. Or even an adherent of a "preferred" or "protected" religion. These get to say racist, sexist, homophobic things all day long, and none of their fellow activists would bat an eye.
"White men ain't shit in tech" => no action taken despite being technically a CoC violation
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No it absolutely isn't. Adding an arbitrary and incendiary meaning to what others say is a major problem. You can create as many enemies as you want that way and it just fuels more division.
So, should people who are inherently political, say gay, trans, or non-binary folk not exist in the workplace?
Fine, I'll bite.
Is idea that expecting you not to berate your coworkers about your pet political issue is erasure?
If so, then yes. I'm not willing to work with anyone who doesn't assume that I'm interacting with them on a good-faith basis by default.
If your only tool for examining the motivations of outsider-groups is bigotry and bias, then all you will find is bigotry and bias.
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#149Ad company cancels all hands meeting. Why is this news?
Re: Google cancels TGIF weekly all-hands meetings
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Yes, it's a giant company that does many things. 2) The thread is about the majority political position of its employees. This is entire separate from the actions as a corporation. 3) Many of things Google does that people think are "right-wing" have nothing to do with left-vs-right at all.
> Google and most SV companies are somewhere between left to far-left. 1) Completely contradicts what you said earlier above 2) How? When does it stop being people and start being a corp? Aren't the decisions made by employees? 3) So? You just linked 'diversity' to left and far-left, isn't that the same thing that started this side thread? How is that site linked with activism or left politics? You mentioned a "prett…
Obviously nothing is absolute, that doesn't make anything contradictory.
The majority political stance is left/far-left. The company is massive and sometimes will do things people consider right-wing, but usually those things are not actually "right-wing" but just normal behavior of a giant corporation seeking to maximize profit and shareholder value.
Corporations and capitalism are not antithetical to left-wing politics.