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Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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"Since all content on the platform can be edited or deleted by other users, he believes there's a good incentive for good behavior by users." There is zero chance this policy survives having a million+ users intact.

It will become power users controlling the narrative. Sort of like how edits and that approval process on wikipedia operate right now.

Yeah I gotta be honest the two sites I both like and hate most on the internet are Wikipedia and StackOverflow. Great resources in most cases but my god the moderation is.. overbearing.

I have my doubts that'll work for a social network. Good luck to them, but I'll have probably forgotten I signed up by the time they next send me an email.

Side note you seem to be able to bypass the signup queue by visiting your own friend share link.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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What are the payment options? Bitcoin maybe?

Looks like Credit card and PayPal only. Definitely not Bitcoin. I've given Bitcoin to Wikipedia in the past (using the same email address). When I try to pay for a WT Social subscription with a credit card, I get a bit scary error message: Card Input Error(s): You cannot combine currencies on a single customer. This customer has had a subscription, coupon, or invoice item with a different currency.

WTF?

Don't some people have credit cards from different countries? Legally, I mean.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

I would pay $1/mo for a chronological feed of my friends' updates and posts.

I found Twitter and Facebook to be frustratingly unusable after they removed their chronological feeds in favor of feeds that prioritize ads and engagement.

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My friends and I are currently building a donation platform for summer camp counselor alumni, church groups, etc. Basically small monthly reoccurring donations ($3-$20). We’ve been playing with the idea of having a social network aspect where to join you pick an organization to donate to and that’s your subscription for using the social network at large

$20/month?!? Forever?!?

It’s for a charity of your choice, so if you have the money, it’s an option. That’s why the base is $3

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To charity. That's $240 to charity a year. Is that so much to sacrifice?

Depending on where you find the data, a lot of Americans live paycheck to paycheck [1]. An extra $240 a year will certainly help a lot of people out there, not just in America. That's why free services like Google and Facebook continue to win out. I really like what some companies in the gaming sector have achieved where the richer subsidize the poorer via buying hats and other cosmetics to keep the game free or lowe…

Where did I say $240/ year is the baseline

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

> What else do you need for a 'social network?' Mass adoption. The user base is the valuable aspect, everything else can be easily recreated.

You get adoption by datamining and autoenrollment so that when people do finally sign in/up.. they already have a network.

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

I was wondering why it needed to be such a jarring price. $13 per month? Really? What’s the bandwidth cost on text and a few images in S3?

Critical mass is obviously the barrier to building something like this but I’m inclined to agree that charging $1/month and $10 a year should be able to turn a healthy profit.

I do kind of wonder if the public is even aware of the problem, though. Anyone I’ve spoken to outside the industry seems to genuinely believe that folks with different opinions to them are stupid (rather than sorted into a different branch of Facebook/Google’s great graph of knowledge for their daily programming).

Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Just my guess, but I bet that from this point on, few people (in the developed world) will race to sign up for a new social network. Why? Given the societal and personal costs (and benefits) that we've seen with previous social networks, a lot of lay people are re-evaluating the utility that such services provide them. In many cases, the answer is to keep your current social network, but increasingly disengage from i…

You may be right but I went ahead and signed up for wt.social and paid for a year's subscription. Who knows - maybe something interesting will come from this.
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