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Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Re: Jimmy Wales has quietly launched a Facebook rival

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Post by classichasclass »

CodeCube wrote: post #212
danielecook wrote: post #210

Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

Anyone remember app.net?

I sure do. I miss it. I think it was doomed the moment it went freemium instead of strictly pay.

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Post by aaaabbbbb »

warent wrote: post #174
pmoriarty wrote: post #156

I always shake my head when Jimmy Wales is given so much credit for founding Wikipedia, while what he did was supply the money for it from the profit he made off his soft-core porn business, while Larry Sanger (who deserves most of the credit, including coming up with the name Wikipedia, with Wikipedia's most distinctive feature -- the so-called Neutral Point of View, and with managing the site itself) is virtually f…

There's a reason why Wikipedia is one of the largest and most useful websites on the internet meanwhile Citizendium barely lasted, and that reason had little to do with ideas being stolen or porn profits being redirected. Jimmy is just a good businessman and made something people want / need with the proper marketing and leadership. It's as simple as that.

Well, the comment you responds to says that Jimmy did not make Wikipedia, but just paid for its development.

If true, his credit taking is plagiarism.

This sort of thing is rampant in several "open" source communities as well.

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Post by bpodgursky »

sridharpoduri wrote: post #213
hombre_fatal wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This post shows how smart Amazon's Prime strategy is. We have someone probably spending thousands of dollars with Amazon (and Amazon taking a good chunk of that in commission) bragging about getting some free ebooks.

And those are e-books that the buyer does not own for ever. Amazon can remove the e-books from its catalog anytime without prior notice.

The only time Amazon has done that, the buyers were refunded (and that's not just Bezos being polite, that's a meaningful legal obligation if it's a purchase).

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Post by johnnycab »

s_dev wrote: post #222
danielecook wrote: post #210

Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

>Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. Didn't WhatsApp used to be $1 a year before Facebook bought them and it was a very successful pricing model? $1 a year for a website is very feasible for both parties assuming it's some Western society.

>Didn't WhatsApp used to be $1 a year before Facebook bought them and it was a very successful pricing model?

I was hounded and paid £0.69 to renew the 'subscription' ─ which was subsequently offered for free to everyone, shortly thereafter. I felt betrayed, but I would happily pay the same amount today (or slightly more), if only to preserve some shred of privacy.

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danielecook wrote: post #210

Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

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Post by mempko »

wtmt wrote: post #62

I checked it out by creating an account. It detected my country as India, and showed the price to jump the waitlist (currently at 60k) as $12.99 a month or $100 a year. Contrast this to (using current conversion rates from INR to USD): * Netflix here starts at $2.8 for the cheapest (mobile only, single screen) plan and has its highest plan (4K, four screens) at $11.2 a month. Netflix is considered so expensive that a…

The price is not $12.99/month, it's free. The $12.99/month are for those that want to support the service financially, it's donationware similar to wikipedia. Jimmy Wales said the idea is that a small minority will pay for the service for everyone.

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Post by hutzlibu »

danielecook wrote: post #241
ng-user wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What else do you need for a 'social network?' Mass adoption. The user base is the valuable aspect, everything else can be easily recreated.

Besides the advantage of an already established network - what are facebooks other advantages? I suppose money is the biggest. are there others?

Sophisticated technology. I don't really use or like FB, but from what I have seen: stable and fast DB, intuitive, clean UI, lots of features. No hazzle to join.

But biggest is network effect.

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Post by nmfert »

danielecook wrote: post #210

Previously someone mentioned the idea of a $1/mo. social network. I think if someone were to make facebook in it's first ~2 years and keep it very basic it we would be good to go. The only features you need are: a profile picture, a wall, chat, and events. In other words - a photo of yourself, a way of publicly messaging, a way of privately messaging, and a way to coordinate social events. What else do you need for a…

fff

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Post by skybrian »

I'm not sure if it's just the headline, but this seems like solving the wrong problem. Universal platforms fail at moderation. Moderation doesn't work unless the moderators are part of the community. Reddit and Mastodon are the ones to follow here (as well as Hacker News, or lobste.rs, or tildes.net, or a zillion specialized forums).
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