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Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

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Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#11

Congrats to YC and all of the startups. Sadly, I can already hear the chants of "Bubble!".

Not really, I think most of here would assume YC would in the next few years produce a solid return. Here your basically aligning youself to YC's performance instead of trying to pick which ones you think will turn out the best. Although sounds like they are still doing that additionally.

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#13
Investing in a company based on its acceptance into YC? Hm. Also, I think this breaks the model a bit, I thought the point of the initial small(er) investment was to drive creation of a product or business model that could then expand naturally or take further investment once they've proven the products value/viability etc. I guess for some it would be a bonus, but for some it might be a curse?

Although "Paul Graham seemed very pleased" implies it doesn't, so I figure I'm wrong. Maybe it is for the better, especially when it's optional...

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#14
Super news this, that's going to have one nasty little side effect, YC will see an order of magnitude increase in the number of applications they will receive in the next round.

Predictably there will be a lot of bitching by other angels, imo they should create a fund and offer to match.

YC might become a one stop shop.

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#15
post #11

Congrats to YC and all of the startups. Sadly, I can already hear the chants of "Bubble!".

Not really, I think most of here would assume YC would in the next few years produce a solid return. Here your basically aligning youself to YC's performance instead of trying to pick which ones you think will turn out the best. Although sounds like they are still doing that additionally.

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Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#16

Holy shit. The word "disruptive" is overused but it's pretty applicable here. Crazy. But is this fair to other angels/investors?

This is what I was thinking. It might be better for people trying to raise money from other angels who aren't a YC company because the new YC batch now has their boats floated for quite a bit more time.

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#17

Holy shit. The word "disruptive" is overused but it's pretty applicable here. Crazy. But is this fair to other angels/investors?

A lot of people will hate this, but it's neither unfair nor immoral. There's nothing stopping anyone else from making similar deals, including you.

What it does do is turn YC into a market index. Interesting.

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#18
post #11

Congrats to YC and all of the startups. Sadly, I can already hear the chants of "Bubble!".

Not really, I think most of here would assume YC would in the next few years produce a solid return. Here your basically aligning youself to YC's performance instead of trying to pick which ones you think will turn out the best. Although sounds like they are still doing that additionally.

absolutely not. YC is getting their percentage at valuations of around 200-300k.

This investment will convert at valuations closer to 5M these days. So in fact they're effectively paying 10x what YC is paying for about the same stake in a company post the financing.

Congrats to YC and time will tell if it works, exciting either way.

Re: Yuri Milner, SV Angel Offer Every New Y Combinator Startup $150k

#19

Investing in a company based on its acceptance into YC? Hm. Also, I think this breaks the model a bit, I thought the point of the initial small(er) investment was to drive creation of a product or business model that could then expand naturally or take further investment once they've proven the products value/viability etc. I guess for some it would be a bonus, but for some it might be a curse? Although "Paul Graham…

The model has changed. Now it's about the ability of Paul et al. to pick horses.

(Also the Ycomb environment and all that too)

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