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Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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So this allows free bypass of features that YouTube wants you to pay for via Premium subscription. Why is this acceptable for YouTube? Can we start building and publishing plugins that bypass paid subscriptions for other SaaS services here too? This is especially strange for music - music artists (in my experience) usually want you to pay for playing their music without video via subscription or by buying an album. T…

Piracy is a service problem.

And so is adblocking.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Is it possible to display my "Subscriptions" screen from YT? That's the only thing I use to decide what's to watch next.

Also, what is registering for? Does it only save my preferences?

I believe registering also provides a non-google way of tracking subscriptions :)

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

They have clarified that this means they can terminate their services, not your accounts. However with recent balls ups it was easy to read it differently

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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I tried writing a front end for youtube gaming to be able to list live streams of your subscriptions. Turns out the API doesn't expose this what I would assume to be a much needed bit of information. Discovery of live streams is hugely lacking compared to Twitch. Turns out that the API in general hasn't been really updated for half a decade, and the calls there appear to be focused on helping a channel owner rather than viewers

I gave up.

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What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

They have clarified that this means they can terminate their services, not your accounts. However with recent balls ups it was easy to read it differently

If the text hasn't been changed, what they say it means isn't relevant - they can still end up going for a different interpretation later and be entirely in the right.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

They have clarified that this means they can terminate their services, not your accounts. However with recent balls ups it was easy to read it differently

It written right ther:

> Terminations and Suspensions by YouTube for Cause

> YouTube may suspend or terminate your access, your Google account, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service

The question is why we still don't believe it even when it's written in black and white?

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service? > YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable. https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

As long as you don't use your account, it'll remain working. Google can't just ban 33% of the internet users (read: those with adblockers) over night without repercussions. If they'd, a YouTube clone with network effect would rise up right away. So they'll want to play some kind of other game. A long game (Manifest v3), a FUD game, who knows?

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

Absolutely. Source: I watch YouTube. In all seriousness you hear creators talking about collapsing revenues due to adblockers all the time. Bigger ones survive with tools like Patreon but if you're new with only a small fan base? ( Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.

Yeah, blame the adblockers. Google decided to not pay anything to smaller fish anymore.

> Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.

Start out as a hobby, then maybe it'll turn into a job. You just need more patience and less expectations instead of the instant gratification. Golden days are long over.

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