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Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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If you included fairtrending.com into the trending page, that'd be a 100% reason to use this.

Unfortunately they took their page down since they didn't find it financially sensible (and after emailing them he doesn't want to open source it)

If you could implement real trending based on views/hours or some logical way that'd be amazing (understandably, this is open-source, so if I find the time I'd love to help too).

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

#12

We seem to be going from pirated movies and music to pirated youtube. Not really sure how I feel about that.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

In-video paid promotions are strictly for creators with hundreds of thousands and millions of subscribers. Small to medium creators still rely on algorithmic pre-roll and interstitial ads.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

Absolutely. Source: I watch YouTube. In all seriousness you hear creators talking about collapsing revenues due to adblockers all the time. Bigger ones survive with tools like Patreon but if you're new with only a small fan base? ( Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

Absolutely. Source: I watch YouTube. In all seriousness you hear creators talking about collapsing revenues due to adblockers all the time. Bigger ones survive with tools like Patreon but if you're new with only a small fan base? ( Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.

> Artists will always create content, but they will always need to eat too.

So do devs, which is quite often neglected when talking about open source. It often goes along the "well, then do it in your spare time"-line.

Maybe there is a huge gap between expectations and what we, as people, can actually do. There are a few who can make a living off of their channel, but you shouldn't start a youtube channel today, expecting to make some "big money".

The more traditional way would be to start small, gain more and more visibility over time, and at some point companies might be interested in "in-video" promotions, like LTT does.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

#17
What's your plan on possible user account terminations, if Google decides to act on their Terms Of Service?

> YouTube may terminate your access, or your Google account’s access to all or part of the Service if YouTube reasonably believes that its provision of the Service to you is no longer commercially viable.

https://www.youtube.com/static?gl=GB&template=terms

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

#18
So this allows free bypass of features that YouTube wants you to pay for via Premium subscription.

Why is this acceptable for YouTube? Can we start building and publishing plugins that bypass paid subscriptions for other SaaS services here too?

This is especially strange for music - music artists (in my experience) usually want you to pay for playing their music without video via subscription or by buying an album. This allows complete bypass of that - it's essentially Napster again.

Re: Invidious: an alternative front-end to YouTube

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We seem to be going from pirated movies and music to pirated youtube. Not really sure how I feel about that.

Does it hurt artists really? I imagine a lot of YouTube users use ad blockers anyways, so a lot of artists have switched to in-video paid promotions.

How exactly does that pay for YouTubes storage, bandwidth and transcoding costs? How does that pay for music artists which request that their music is paid for when people are listening to it in background? Why the wierd double standard with YT?

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post #18

So this allows free bypass of features that YouTube wants you to pay for via Premium subscription. Why is this acceptable for YouTube? Can we start building and publishing plugins that bypass paid subscriptions for other SaaS services here too? This is especially strange for music - music artists (in my experience) usually want you to pay for playing their music without video via subscription or by buying an album. T…

> Can we start building and publishing plugins that bypass paid subscriptions for other SaaS services here too?

You mean like [1]? Yes!

[1] https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-firefox

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