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Re: U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to cost $100k per year

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Post by crowbahr » Sat, Nov 09, 2019, 6:04 PM UTC

paulddraper wrote: post #408

DuskStar wrote: post #311

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If I had to complain about things, it would be these: 1. Lack of workplace training - very few employers will pay for you to train/gain experience, partly because there's nothing preventing someone from jumping ship for better pay once the training is complete 2. Credentialism - the things that actually matter in hiring are either difficult or illegal to test for (conscientiousness, knowledge, intelligence), and so d…

> very few employers will pay for you to train/gain experience Yes and no. Most HVAC shops will pay for technician's training. Most dev shops pay for technical conferences. Most managers have access to management seminars and training. Expecting an employers to pay tens of thousands of dollars seems weird, but many employers do pay on a smaller scale for skills training. > degrees are used as proxies instead Though c…

Dev shops pay for technical conferences but few tech places want to hire fresh, green devs and train them up. They all would prefer experience.

It's why you see so many forums talking about sending out applications to hundreds of places for months when searching for their first job, then never having a problem again after.

Re: U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to cost $100k per year

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Post by erikpukinskis » Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 5:27 PM UTC

asdfman123 wrote: post #376

buboard wrote: post #305

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If this argument is made in public, people will never support debt forgiveness. not only it breaks the social contract with severe entitlement, it's also very hard to accept that people who can afford harvard or stanford "suffer" populist emotional arguments are good when there is the populus to empathize with it. the vast majority of people won't care for such "plight".

You have to realize a lot of kids who went to Harvard and Stanford were just smart kids from normal suburban families and middle class homes. And many of them have middle class jobs, just like people with similar SAT scores who went to state schools instead. Be wary of populist urges to tear down people you perceive to be "better" than you because maybe they're really not, or they're not the cause of the problem. Do…

What’s the endgame though? You have the federal government pay UChigago $100k a year times however many kids? And then when UChicago raises the price to $120k, the federal government pays that?

Where does it end?

I’m not against free college, or debt forgiveness, but sometimes even if you have a goal there’s no regulatory framework that can meet it.

If I wanted to prohibit abortions, while discouraging birth control, and ensuring victims of abuse get to control their bodies... well, sorry. There’s just no regulatory framework that can achieve that. Doesn’t matter what I think is “right”.

Re: U of Chicago projected to be the first U.S. university to cost $100k per year

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