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Re: PayPal stops payouts to models on Pornhub

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Post by alias_neo »

egeozcan wrote: post #524
Bombthecat wrote: post #513

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Forbidden in germany. There is literally a law, which basically says: everyone needs to have and is allowed to have a banking account.

I'm living in Germany, the bank account of my neighbor in Commerzbank was closed because he wrote "hooker money" in description when sending money to one of his friends. At least that's what we believe because they refused to explain why. He could easily open another account in Volksbank and according to him, when the new account manager asked and learned why his previous account was closed, they had a pretty good la…

I've been with my bank for 15+ years. One time I sent a payment of several hundred £s to a friend who's paid my share of a holiday when booking.

In the description I put "fun times". I had a call from my bank asking me to explain the payment the next day. I've never been called before nor since that.

It certainly feels like they're a bit touchy about certain references.

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Post by qxga »

aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

Bitcoin would be great for this in theory, but the problem is that customers will not pay you in Bitcoin. People want their porn and they want it now, that's why they're paying. If you don't make it practically seamless for a layman to pay you for your porn, they're either pirating it or looking elsewhere. Sure, a few people might pay, but you're looking at probably a 50-75% revenue loss, best case.

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Post by brewmarche »

em-bee wrote: post #460
wincy wrote: post #441

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Profiling isn't illegal unless it's profiling against a protected class, right? It's like how I can't get cheap life insurance because I took antidepressants like seven years ago during a rough patch in my life.

profiling is illegal when the service is necessary to live. in germany for example, it is illegal to deny someone access to things like a phone line, electricity or water. (that is, even if you don't pay your bills, they are not allowed to turn of your service. instead, if they want the money, they have to sue you) i believe at this point, access to a bank account is also included in this. as things progress, more th…

German electricity and phone companies can definitely cut you off for not paying. Don't know about water, but I imagine it's similar.

What they can't do is deny you a contract in the first place. (Kontrahierungszwang – obligation to contract, concerns the local water company, the biggest local electricity provider and Deutsche Telekom)

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Post by StreamBright »

nintendo1889 wrote: post #418
RileyJames wrote: post #377

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This debate is currently brewing in Australia, except its against providing services to mining companies. When is right / wrong to boycott? And who should be allowed to? (Persons or companies) Context: in Australia the prime minister (Scott Morrison) is looking into laws to ban boycotts by companies (who are being compelled by people / public opinion)

Think about refusing to bake a cake for homosexuals. How is this any different?

A company cannot really have a religious believe.

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Post by arkh »

bsder wrote: post #523
skunkpocalypse wrote: post #341

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Halftone magazine printing? Check. Videocasettes? Check. Internet? Check. Thank heaven for prurient smut, driver of all great technology. Without it we would still be in the stone age.

You forget laserdiscs, smaller videocameras, DVDs, and online payment systems ... It's also probably the only thing really using VR/AR right now to any significant degree. It used to be that there was a porn convention at the same time as CES in Las Vegas. For a lot of years, the porn conference was the better of the two from a technology standpoint.

VR, 4k, interactive use of connected devices. We're getting to Demolition Man levels fast.

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Post by Mindwipe »

Spooky23 wrote: post #398
aazaa wrote: post #135

Financial deplatforming is a monster, long-term trend to watch over the next decades. Deplatforming happens with sex workers. It also happens in the US marijuana industry. It happens with perfectly legal political content. The number of ways in which someone, somewhere will be offended by products or services for sale is growing, driven by a rapidly improving worldwide communication network and delivery system, and b…

PayPal is an accessible platform that works is a wide variety of scenarios — it’s almost unique in that respect. Most forms of sex work are illegal in the US and other jurisdictions, and sites like PornHub are compliance nightmares where all manner of sleazy or illegal actions are likely happening. PayPal doesn’t want to be the financier for the next scandalous “amateur” producer.

"Most" forms of sex work aren't illegal in the US, or indeed most territories.

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Post by short_sells_poo »

hedvig wrote: post #407
short_sells_poo wrote: post #264

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It's not a moral choice. It's a case of the business is not worth the hassle. KYC rules mean the bank is on the hook if they are found to harbor ill gotten gains and the sex industry had a some troubles in the past, while not producing enough volume on an individual level to make it worthwhile for a bank to overlook things.

>found to harbor ill gotten gains Ah yeah like they were on the hook for laundering Mexican drug cartel money?

If you actually read my post, I do imply that when it is worth it, the banks will overlook things, but an individual sex worker's business is not worth the risk (probably, I'm not a banker). They'll help you launder $100 million, but not $10000.
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