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How the FBI raided Anonymous

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Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

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post #3

Let me get this straight. All this fanfare, and all they got was a bunch of teenagers (who most likely are not even legally liable) + their moms?

With it being Anonymous, I wouldn't be surprised that the main demographic were indeed teenagers. At least those of them who didn't cover their tracks.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#44
I'm concerned about the knock-down approach by the FBI.

Say I live in a state which allows one to kill home intruders on sight, could I not legally set up an alarm system that sprays some bullets in the direction of the door if it's opened without being disabled? By knocking I can disable it and let them in instead of having a few dead FBI agents on my doorstep.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#45

>The FBI yesterday reminded the public that "facilitating or conducting a DDoS attack is illegal, punishable by up to 10 years in prison, as well as exposing participants to significant civil liability." What exactly is the relevant statute? As the other Ars article on the subject states, it's the digital equivalent of a sit-in.

It's silly to pretend that a DDoS attack is the same as a sit-in, such a contention is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

Moreover, sit-ins are not legal either. If you choose to attempt to disrupt a place of business and you refuse to leave private property when asked to do so you can be arrested.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#46
post #44

I'm concerned about the knock-down approach by the FBI. Say I live in a state which allows one to kill home intruders on sight, could I not legally set up an alarm system that sprays some bullets in the direction of the door if it's opened without being disabled? By knocking I can disable it and let them in instead of having a few dead FBI agents on my doorstep.

No, you cannot legally create lethal booby traps, in any state in the US.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#47
post #44

I'm concerned about the knock-down approach by the FBI. Say I live in a state which allows one to kill home intruders on sight, could I not legally set up an alarm system that sprays some bullets in the direction of the door if it's opened without being disabled? By knocking I can disable it and let them in instead of having a few dead FBI agents on my doorstep.

Of course you couldn't legally set that up, are you insane? On what planet would that be justifiable? Even in Texas, you need to demonstrate a reasonable belief that you were in imminent danger of being robbed or attacked before you are permitted to use deadly force on an intruder in your home.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#48
post #44

I'm concerned about the knock-down approach by the FBI. Say I live in a state which allows one to kill home intruders on sight, could I not legally set up an alarm system that sprays some bullets in the direction of the door if it's opened without being disabled? By knocking I can disable it and let them in instead of having a few dead FBI agents on my doorstep.

No, you cannot legally create lethal booby traps, in any state in the US.

Good to know. How about non-lethal? (Say, something that might break a few bones but you'll recover.)

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#49
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.

I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland. you might be disappointed. Law enforcement cooperates extensively throughout the World.

Don't get me wrong. I'm all for laws. I'm just skeptical that they work really well across borders.

Re: How the FBI raided Anonymous

#50
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.

I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.

Google "Interpol", they've been around a little while.
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