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Does the FBI even investigate this sort of thing internationally? Does anyone?
Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.
How the FBI raided Anonymous
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#23It's funny that Mastercard can't defend against an attack that my home router is capable of defending against. (A big limit on connections per /24 per minute should solve this problem. So will using a smart webserver or frontend proxy that doesn't care how many idle connections there are. Then all you have to worry about is bandwidth saturation rather than your servers crashing.) But the lesson here is, when you visi…
You can get people to participate in DDoS attacks with a malicious website though. Just use some JS to create image elements, script tags, iframes etc all with sources pointing at the target, should be able to do a few hundred a second at least. Even trivial to get people to participate without using javascript. Just pop in a hidden iframe with a million tags in the source. As things move on, I don't think individual…
Mostly agree, but thought it worth pointing out that no browser will respond to this by parallelizing the million requests - most browsers don't ever open more than a dozen or so concurrent connections to one site. So this wouldn't do as much as you might think, unless you could get lots of users to stay on your page for a long time.
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#24Let me get this straight. All this fanfare, and all they got was a bunch of teenagers (who most likely are not even legally liable) + their moms?
What does being a teenager have to do with being liable? If they're criminally liable, they'll be tried by a juvenile court. If they're civilly liable, their parents will face civil suits.
teenagers who most likely are not liable to the same extent as adults
would it have satisfied your pedantry, or would you still argue to the contrary?
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.
I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.
you might be disappointed. Law enforcement cooperates extensively throughout the World.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Does anyone? Countries outside America do have law enforcement agencies for the most part, so yes.
I meant, does anyone investigate them end-to-end, and not just in their own country? I find it hard to believe that the FBI interacts well with law enforcement in, say, Poland.
RCMP is the Canadian FBI by the way.
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Where were Wikileaks' servers hosted at the time? The US cops are going to go after the crimes against US businesses on US soil first.
Those are in fact the only crimes they are likely to have jurisdiction over.
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#28It's funny that Mastercard can't defend against an attack that my home router is capable of defending against. (A big limit on connections per /24 per minute should solve this problem. So will using a smart webserver or frontend proxy that doesn't care how many idle connections there are. Then all you have to worry about is bandwidth saturation rather than your servers crashing.) But the lesson here is, when you visi…
It seems like it would be trivial to get someone's door busted down by running LOIC aggressively on their computer. I wonder--at what point can the FBI's enthusiastic enforcement be directed, in some sense, as a weapon? Edit: I've watched Anonymous (insert typical disclaimer about the membership of a heterogenous group of net users) attack more than one of my boxes. DDOS's have been traditionally been the regime of s…
They cherry picked a few IP addresses, set surveillance on them, and then chose those few which belonged to people who were active on forums revealing that they were in fact probably guilty and didn't just have a trojan or little brother.
If the FBI intended to comprehensively prosecute every offender your point would be a genuine hindrance. However they only need a few to deter the behaviour and they know this.
Thousands of people participated in these protests, and a handful are going to be made examples of. It's not at all unlike a flesh-and-blood protest.
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You can get people to participate in DDoS attacks with a malicious website though. Just use some JS to create image elements, script tags, iframes etc all with sources pointing at the target, should be able to do a few hundred a second at least. Even trivial to get people to participate without using javascript. Just pop in a hidden iframe with a million tags in the source. As things move on, I don't think individual…
Just pop in a hidden iframe with a million tags in the source. Mostly agree, but thought it worth pointing out that no browser will respond to this by parallelizing the million requests - most browsers don't ever open more than a dozen or so concurrent connections to one site. So this wouldn't do as much as you might think, unless you could get lots of users to stay on your page for a long time.