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AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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I find it interesting how desktop CPUs are essentially coming down to two enthusiast markets, developers/content creators/workstations and gaming. While the gaming market is (usually) seeking the highest top single core clock speed with respect to CPUs, it also relies on other expensive hardware. Meanwhile the dev/content creator/workstation market is much better served by these multi-core behemoths. Intel really has…

Before Vulkan, there were more bottlenecks on multithreaded rendering. Most games pushed everything to a single drawing thread. Hopefully going forward that will change, but even with Red Dead Redemption 2's Vulkan implementation, a 6 core Intel/AMD chip is competitive with this processor at lower settings/resolutions where the GPU is less of a bottleneck. Compute bound games like Civilization 6 do scale with process…

Factorio is also limited by single core performance, with the developers saying they have no plans to implement multithreading.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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This isn't the most groundbreaking release - it's not the first 16-core chip you can buy (edited), nor the first 7nm. No new clockspeed records were set. Still, $750 for all that power! Any professionals shopping for this, or waiting for 24 or 32-core Threadripper? Anyone trying to upgrade on an older motherboard, or are you getting a matching X570 to ensure maximum boost and PCI-e bandwidth?

I'm waiting for 64 core CPU. 32 is nice but still not enough.

Then you can buy an EPYC 7702P. It's not like they don't make 64 core CPUs. Or get a dual-socket board and buy two 7702s if 128 cores are more to your liking.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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I read that all these new AMD CPUs support ECC, but it’s been hard finding verification. Can any one recommended a motherboard that both supports and uses ECC RAM with this new CPU?

It seems like ECC support is pretty widespread, I know for a fact that my Asus Prime X570-PRO has an option for ECC memory in the bios and it's a midrange board. Might depend on the board manufacturer to enable it. Asus seems to have it in most if not all of their boards.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Way to go AMD! One of the benefits of competition between the duopoly. AMD has cornered Intel these last couple of years and I don’t see this trend changing soon, not with all these vulnerabilities that chipzilla is having ;-)

One thing I’d like to note, is that with all this computing power being available to users at a relatively affordable price, software developers (games - commercial software) won’t optimize their code. I’ve seen it happening where a loop/scanning/sorting algorithm won’t be optimized since the user will anyhow have a few cores and GHz to spare.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any current products one can buy, regardless of expense, using Intel's 10nm? I know there was one product, the Core i3-8121U, a very middling performance chip which saw an extremely limited release. But it was discontinued.

10nm Ice Lake laptop chips are currently shipping in systems from Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc.

Well shiver me timbers, they've been out for weeks!

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Any problems with AMD cpus and containers or virtualization? (Really? Wow. Sorry for asking a question!)

I'm running Kubernetes inside a libvirt VM on a Ryzen 3600. No issues at all.

Thanks to you and others for your data.

I look forward to building my first AMD rig in like 15 years or something! I got an RX580 GPU just sitting around, from when I planned to upgrade my 2012 Mac Pro to support Mojave (not worth doing I decided). Now I just need the rest of the machine!

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As already said by others, Phoronix has some compilation benchmarks. I have recently bought a 3900X. Some things about compilation I would note is that it heavily depends on your programming language and tooling. And that you would note is that you get most benefits on clean builds of big projects, which scale very well per core. On incremental builds or smaller projects it is however not uncommon to see It's all nic…

Beside clean builds is Git branch checkouts. I hit this at least twice a week. Finish a feature branch and push it. Check out master. Pull master. Make new feature branch. Get an urgent bug fix request, switch to release branch, make a bugfix branch. Now go back to the new feature. During this I may end up doing large rebuilds because Git changes modification times even if you end up back with the same header file yo…

Use a build system that works with input-hashes. djb's redo is an example.

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

#189

I noticed yesterday's articles about Intel's upcoming unusually large release of security mitigations. Under serious competitive threat for the first time in a while, I'm curious if Intel may have slowed the release of some mitigations to land after this round of comparison benchmarks.

Intel has been cheating their single core performance against AMD for many years, thanks to predictive and insecure algorithms. Reality is just catching up, AMD is already number one for a long time. Intell's cheating just didn't make it clear. I've waited for a year to express my opinion, before I could see any evidence. The time has come that AMD is even beating Intell's fake single core performance, so slowly we w…

>Ps. Long AMD

So you recommend to buy AMD stock now? Or TSMC? Or is it already too late for that? The share price already went up from 28 to 38 since October

Re: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X Review

#190

I find it interesting how desktop CPUs are essentially coming down to two enthusiast markets, developers/content creators/workstations and gaming. While the gaming market is (usually) seeking the highest top single core clock speed with respect to CPUs, it also relies on other expensive hardware. Meanwhile the dev/content creator/workstation market is much better served by these multi-core behemoths. Intel really has…

Before Vulkan, there were more bottlenecks on multithreaded rendering. Most games pushed everything to a single drawing thread. Hopefully going forward that will change, but even with Red Dead Redemption 2's Vulkan implementation, a 6 core Intel/AMD chip is competitive with this processor at lower settings/resolutions where the GPU is less of a bottleneck. Compute bound games like Civilization 6 do scale with process…

that reminds me of what I had read on EverQuest 2. I downloaded it when it went f2p years after launch. My gaming PC had some issues with it which seemed nuts as it could handle more intensive games. After reading up on it, EQ2 came about a little bit before the shift to multiple cores which was to their detriment: they basically expected single core performance to keep going up substantially (as it had during EQ1 era) and not expanding to multiple cores. As such, they optimized against a configuration that never ended up existing.
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