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In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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I never really understood the appeal of 1Password, why would you send all your passwords to a 3rd party where you can't even read the source code? I'm using KeePassXC in combination with Syncthing, everything is hosted by me and without the need of any cloud. Am I missing something, or is it just the convinience of one package?

I have a similar setup and yes, I believe it's a convenience thing. Imagine teaching your non-technical family member how to manage your setup.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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> Ever since they went to the cloud, I stopped using and recommending them to friends and family. The whole point of using a password manager is that the passwords I create and use on my {desktop, laptop, work machine, phone} are immediately and seamlessly available to me on all of the other platforms. As far as I know it is Cloud integration which enables this absolutely necessary and table-stakes functionality. Is…

1password had (maybe still has?) integrations with services like Dropbox where your vault would be stored on a 3rd party service like Dropbox to achieve the cross-device syncing your describing. IMO this was the more secure implementation (assuming 1password was only storing fully encrypted files on your 3rd party cloud preference) - even if someone broke in your Dropbox, they can’t decrypt your passwords without you…

> 1password had (maybe still has?) integrations with services like Dropbox

It's not as seamless as having the functionality built-in. You have to deal with logins, authorizations, etc. I wish it could be as easy as "Do you allow 1Password to use Dropbox? (Y/N)".

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Wha..? I'm totally not following, iCloud syncing is completely transparent and built-in to 1Password. There's 0 extra work to support it (outside of finding how to turn it on, because it's buried in the UI), there's literally less work than 1Password's own subscription service, because that requires setting up an account whereas iCloud doesn't.

You can use iCloud without an account? Is iCloud available outside of Apple ecosystem? Otherwise it doesn't seem very relevant since its not a general solution.

Yes, you're right, this only works for Apple devices, so going cross-ecosystem is definitely a benefit of their subscription service! I disagree on that meaning it's the iCloud solution is irrelevant though, skipping the $36/a year, and the additional control over your data not being on a subscription entails, seem like relevant benefits for the people who fit those requirements!

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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The concern, which is fair, is that 1password's cloud is a target. And those targeting it have only one intention, which is to steal people's passwords and other information stored in the 1password cloud. In contrast, of course using the dropbox sync approach with 1password does put your information in the cloud as well. But, it's in your personal dropbox account. That dropbox account could absolutely be hacked, but…

As a non-user of 1password, what's the value of the vault on it's own? don't you need a master password to unlock it?

Exactly.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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You’re probably being downvoted because of this statement, which is blatantly wrong: > The only reason they went to the cloud is because most people were buying one copy and sharing it with multiple people. It’s cloud-based because the majority of password management users want automatic cross-device updates without setting up their own server.

>It’s cloud-based because the majority of password management users want automatic cross-device updates without setting up their own server. So? You can put the database on gdrive, icloud, dropbox, or any cloud service you want. I think most users understand the concept of creating a file, putting stuff in it, and putting it on a file syncing service (or usb drive).

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Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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How does 1Password compare to Firefox Lockwise? I am using Lockwise and it uses the same technology and cross-platform sync. Since I already use Firefox this is a no-brainer to me, and it's free. Is there an advantage to 1Password over Lockwise?

I use none of the above, but I guess you can't autofill smartphone app credential fields with Lockwise, while you certainly can with 1pw.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Saying that $370 is not a lot of money shows just how far removed the tech bubble is from the rest of the world. "Four in 10 adults in 2017 would either borrow, sell something, or not be able pay if faced with a $400 emergency expense." https://www.federalreserve.gov/publications/files/2017-repor... , page 21. That's a lump sum expense, not paid over time, but I think it illustrates quite well that $370 is a lot of m…

4/10 is surprisingly low. Most of us would borrow to pay a $400 emergency expense. Are there really that many people out there paying with cash or check instead of “borrowing” by paying with credit card?

The question is not if you're carrying $400 in cash, but whether you can afford that expense. A credit card paid off in full is considered cash-equivalent: "When faced with a hypothetical expense of only $400, 59 percent of adults in 2017 say they could easily cover it, using entirely cash, savings, or a credit card paid off at the next statement (referred to, altogether, as “cash or its equivalent”)" (from the same page of that report).

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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Bitwarden IMO beats LastPass and 1Password. Very polished, hassle free experience

Bitwarden had a crappy (and slow) android app, a crappy (and slow, touch based interface, poor right click options, poor design, memory hungry, crippled) windows desktop app, and an OK (for a web app) desktop site. It only beats 1Password on price. If you don't want to pay for a fucking awesome app, good riddance to you.

I'm using the Birwarden Windows app (and Mac app) right now, and both seem great to me.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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>It’s cloud-based because the majority of password management users want automatic cross-device updates without setting up their own server. So? You can put the database on gdrive, icloud, dropbox, or any cloud service you want. I think most users understand the concept of creating a file, putting stuff in it, and putting it on a file syncing service (or usb drive).

Or you can build your own pc from open market components, or maybe build your own components by designing your own pcb and sourcing the chips, and write your own drivers, or... etc. Some people don't want to roll their own. You may, or may not agree with the concept of a fully managed solution, but for any non technical user, they want it to (borrow a phrase) "just work". It's the majority of the addressable market.

Even as a dev and ops engineer, or especially so perhaps, I want passwords to just work. Sure I could write my own but why.

Re: In Its First Funding in 14 Years, 1Password Raises $200M Series A

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You’re probably being downvoted because of this statement, which is blatantly wrong: > The only reason they went to the cloud is because most people were buying one copy and sharing it with multiple people. It’s cloud-based because the majority of password management users want automatic cross-device updates without setting up their own server.

It's cloud-based so they can hold your data hostage and charge a subscription fee. The cloud synced updating features you're talking about work fine for me already with 1Password's iCloud-backed syncing, which is how most Mac and iOS apps sync data, it's just in that model Apple has control of my data, not 1Password (and I don't pay a subscription fee), so they make it incredibly difficult to configure that way.

What if you have a device that iCloud isn’t available on? What if you want to check passwords on someone else’s computer? Or on a public one?
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